Re: [oslc-core] namespaces & actions spec (was Re: [oslc-core] Agenda posted for 10-July-2014)

[Steve K Speicher <sspeiche@us.ibm.com>]

> From: Steve K Speicher/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS
> To: oslc-core@lists.oasis-open.org
> Date: 07/10/2014 09:51 AM
> Subject: [oslc-core] namespaces & actions
spec (was Re: [oslc-core] Agenda 
> posted for 10-July-2014)
> Sent by: <oslc-core@lists.oasis-open.org>
> 
> > From: Martin P Pain <martinpain@uk.ibm.com>
> > To: Steve K Speicher/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS
> > Cc: oslc-core@lists.oasis-open.org
> > Date: 07/10/2014 05:27 AM
> > Subject: Re: [oslc-core] Agenda posted for 10-July-2014 - namespaces
& 
> actions spec
> > Sent by: <oslc-core@lists.oasis-open.org>
> > 
> > I may or may not be able to attend today. (My apologies if I
don't make 
> it.)
> > If I can make it, I won't be there for all of it. 
> 
> Thanks for letting me know, with summer it gets tough but I want to
make 
> sure we keep up the heartbeat.  I also expect it to not take
the full 90 
> minutes.
> 
> > My input: 
> > 
> > Namespaces: Perhaps another option is that the open-services.net
Core WG 
> 
> > continues to maintain the OSLC vocabs, while the OASIS TCs maintain
the 
> > specs. Somehow the OASIS TC will have to contribute new terms
back (or 
> > publish them in a form that the open-services.net WG has enough
rights 
> to 
> > pick them up and publish them, then the OASIS spec pick up the
updated 
> open-
> > services.net vocab and update the specs to use it). It would
be rather 
> > complicated, and somewhat confusing, so probably only worth considering
> as a
> > last resort. 
> 

My apologies, seems I didn't read your note right.
 This is esentially one of my proposals.  Except, OASIS (or the
OSLC member section) would take over ownership of http://open-services.net/ns/*
only.  I think this would work best since:
a) URLs don't have to change
b) the changes are governed by OASIS 
things to work out:
a) will OASIS do this (take on a domain to maintain
or would it be the member section maintaining it in some way).
b) is it technically feasible, can we reroute all
other traffic without any cost or minimal (anything not /ns/*).


> I know we've talked about something like this, I see 2 major problems
with 
> it:
> 1. Duplication. People would be confused which one to use.  If
2 impls 
> choice each differently, then they see as 2 completely different 
> vocabularies.  UNLESS, we host at open-serivces.net the ones
that have 
> absolute URLs in the documents that are http://docs.oasis-open.org
instead 
> of open-services.net OR we put in a bunch of owl:sameAs statements.
 It 
> gets confusing and can see various things that impls could get wrong.
> 2. OASIS aliasing policy. Which this might be considered as: 
> http://docs.oasis-open.org/specGuidelines/ndr/namingDirectives.html#URI-aliases
> 
> Let's keep the discussion open, I'm currently working on updating
the doc 
> with some specific items and pros and cons.  I will make this
a priority 
> so we can move past this.
> 
> > 
> > Action Spec review: I don't believe we've received any review
feedback 
> on 
> > this yet (although if we have please remind me as it means I've
> forgotten). 
> > 
> 
> Yep, got it on the agenda to crack the review/reminder whip.
> 
> Thanks,
> Steve Speicher
> IBM Rational Software
> OSLC - Lifecycle integration inspired by the web -> 
> http://open-services.net
> 
> 
> > 
> > 
> > Martin Pain
> > Software Developer - Green Hat
> > Rational Test Virtualization Server, Rational Test Control Panel
> > OASIS Open Services for Lifecycle Collaboration - Automation
technical 
> committee chair
> > 
> > E-mail: martinpain@uk.ibm.com
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> > <oslc-core@lists.oasis-open.org> wrote on 09/07/2014 14:00:17:
> > 
> > > From: Steve K Speicher <sspeiche@us.ibm.com> 
> > > To: oslc-core@lists.oasis-open.org, 
> > > Date: 09/07/2014 14:00 
> > > Subject: [oslc-core] Agenda posted for 10-July-2014 
> > > Sent by: <oslc-core@lists.oasis-open.org> 
> > > 
> > > https://wiki.oasis-open.org/oslc-core/Meetings/Telecon2014.07.10
> > > 
> > > Arnaud can't attend and asked that I chair the meeting in
his 
> > > absence.  Please let me know if you have any agenda
items. 
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > Steve Speicher
> > > IBM Rational Software
> > > OSLC - Lifecycle integration inspired by the web -> 
> http://open-services.net
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