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Subject: Minutes for 11 December 2014

Now available for review:

Arnaud J Le Hors (IBM)
Arthur Ryman (IBM)
Arnaud J Le Hors (IBM), Arthur Ryman (IBM),, Gauthier Fanmuy (DS), Ian Green (IBM), Nick Crossley (IBM), Samuel Padgett (IBM), Steve Speicher (IBM)
Didier Simoneau (DS), Harish Krishnaswamy (Software AG), Jim Conallen (IBM)
Resolutions Actions Original Chat transcript from room: oslc

Roll Call

[07:14] Arnaud J Le Hors (IBM): Arnaud J Le Hors (IBM) Arthur Ryman (IBM) Gauthier Fanmuy ian green Nick Crossley (IBM) Samuel Padgett (IBM) Steve Speicher (IBM)

Approval of Minutes of 13 November 2014

[07:15] Arthur Ryman (IBM): No objections, approved.

Next Call

[07:16] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Next call Jan. 8, 2015

Authoring tools

[07:18] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Steve: previous process embedded shapes and vocabs in HTML, then manually create RDF version

[07:19] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Steve: proposed process is to make RDF documents the source and generate HTML using ReSpec

[07:19] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Steve: would like to have more use to validate the approach

[07:20] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Steve: Sam has used this approach

[07:24] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Arthur: will shape documents be published like vocabs?

[07:24] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Steve: Yes. We will use http:open-services.net as the hostname for URIs and redirect to OASIS

[07:25] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Guathier: What is a shape?

[07:26] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Arthur: See http://www.w3.org/Submission/shapes/

[07:27] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Arnaud: See also new W3C workgroup: https://www.w3.org/2014/data-shapes/wiki/Main_Page


[07:27] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Arnaud: Steve is working on a proposal

[07:28] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Steve: See wiki: https://wiki.oasis-open.org/oslc-core/Discovery

[07:29] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Steve: need co-existence with V2, also align with Linked Data Platform

[07:31] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Steve: exploring use of HTTP headers

[07:32] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Steve: collecting use cases, e.g. what shapes can I POST to a container?

[07:32] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Steve: one solution is to add a property to the container, e.g. oslc:createShape

[07:34] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Steve: added User Story to W3C RDF Data Shapes WG, see https://www.w3.org/2014/data-shapes/wiki/User_Stories#S31:_LDP:_POST_content_to_Container_of_a_certain_shape

[07:36] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Arnaud: everyone should review the proposal and send comments to the mailing list

Compatibility with V2

[07:38] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Arnaud: Steve and Sam created a draft

[07:38] Arthur Ryman (IBM): See http://tools.oasis-open.org/version-control/browse/wsvn/oslc-core/specs/compat.html#diff-from-2

[07:40] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Steve: used CM as the model

[07:40] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Steve: query syntax may be superceded by a future LDP filter language

[07:41] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Steve: RDF/XML may be demoted to "unspecified", Turtle and JSON-LD are MUST

[07:42] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Arnaud: for OSLC we may need RDF/XML for backward compatibility

[07:43] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Ian: are there guidelines for how to evolve to V3?

[07:43] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Steve: Yes, section 5 onwards

[07:46] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Arnaud: everyone should review the proposal and send comments to mailing list

Core V3 Draft

[07:47] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Steve: have overview of V3

[07:48] Arthur Ryman (IBM): See http://tools.oasis-open.org/version-control/browse/wsvn/oslc-core/specs/oslc-core-v3.html

[07:48] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Arnaud: everyone should review the proposal and send comments to mailing list

[07:49] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Arnaud: we should also assign actions to individuals, starting next year


[07:50] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Sam: spec is solidifying, added vocab terms to core

[07:51] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Sam: LDP container manages non-RDF attachments, uses Link Headers

[07:52] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Sam: see example section in http://tools.oasis-open.org/version-control/browse/wsvn/oslc-core/specs/attachments-v3.html

[07:54] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Steve: simplicity is a goal

[07:55] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Sam: pls give feedback on structure of spec, i.e. numbering of sections for compliance

[07:55] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Arnaud: I like it, it is useful to identify requirements

[07:56] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Sam: requirements have URIs

Proposal to add oslc:archived

[07:57] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Arnaud: are we waiting for feedback from Bill?

[07:58] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Steve: No, it is added to spec and will be included in the review of the draft

[07:58] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Arnaud: let's discuss at next meeting

Round Robin Updates

[08:00] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Nick: No action on my item due to absence

[08:00] Arnaud J Le Hors (IBM): Configuration context header

[08:00] Arthur Ryman (IBM): Nick: specs will be firmed up in coming weeks, will draft RFC for IETF on link headers

Meeting ends
Arnaud  Le Hors - Senior Technical Staff Member, Open Web Standards - IBM Software Group

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