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Subject: Minutes from meeting May 14, 2015

Thanks to David for doing an excellent job of scribing the meeting - if our records are accurate then this was his first time.


David Honey, Harish, Jim Amsden, Martin Sarabura, Nick Crossley


Ian Green Martin Pain


  • Remove Preview Guidance document from v3.0 lineup and absorb its contents into the Preview spec itself


  • Martin to contact OASIS re how best to include non-normative text into normative text
  • Jim to contact OASIS re rules for citations
  • Committee members should consider how we could merge the Preview and Dialog specification dialog descriptors and be prepared to discuss at next meeting



Chat transcript from room: oslc
2015-05-14 GMT-08:00
[07:05] David Honey (IBM): David volunteered to be scribe.
[07:06] Jim Amsden (IBM): Multi-Part Document and Conformance Authentication Dialogs Preview Guidance - Committee Note or move to Dialogs information section Normalize Preview and Dialog Discovery Attachments Overview Compatibility
[07:08] David Honey (IBM): List of attendees: David Honey (IBM), Harish (SoftwareAG), Jim Amsden (IBM), Martin Sarabura (PTC), Nick Crossley (IBM)
[07:09] David Honey (IBM): Minutes from Apr 30th: No objections, accepted.
[07:09] David Honey (IBM): Next call 28th May.
[07:10] David Honey (IBM): Action item: Nick to raise issue about icon size. Now posted on issues tracker.
[07:10] Jim Amsden (IBM): As well as sections marked as non-normative, all authoring guidelines, diagrams, examples, and notes in this specification are non-normative. Everything else in this specification is normative. - is sufficient to indicate Examples are informative?
[07:13] David Honey (IBM): Clearer to embed examples near to the sections they relate to.
[07:14] David Honey (IBM): Nick: Should we ask Chet - Is this acceptable to OASIS?
[07:16] David Honey (IBM): Jim to contact Chet for guidance, and look at existing OASIS specs to see how they handle examples.
[07:17] David Honey (IBM): Proposal is to restrict the section Jim pasted to only include diagrams and examples.
[07:17] David Honey (IBM): Martin will talk to Chet about this.
[07:21] David Honey (IBM): Issue 4: Nick ok with changed wording. No objections.
[07:22] David Honey (IBM): Issue 7 on authentication. Agreed that this should be included.
[07:26] David Honey (IBM): Issue 13: Some discussion in W3C Data shapes working group about scope. One view is that UI related issues like default values is out of scope.
[07:27] David Honey (IBM): One solution: Use ldp:ConstrainedBy for constraints, use some other predicate for the UI-related information that is needed.
[07:33] David Honey (IBM): Difficult to make decisions about resource shapes when the W3C Data shapes WG has yet to reach convergence.
[07:35] David Honey (IBM): GET of an artifact can include a OSLC resource shape predicate referencing an OSLC 2.0 resource shape.
[07:35] David Honey (IBM): If it includes a ldp:constrainedBy, don't currently know what it references.
[07:36] David Honey (IBM): Suggestion to include this in non-normative guidance.
[07:40] David Honey (IBM): Issue 12, Preview Guidance: Proposal is to remove the preview guidance and absorb useful content into the spec.
[07:40] David Honey (IBM): +1
[07:40] Jim Amsden (IBM): +1
[07:40] Martin Sarabura (PTC): +1
[07:40] Nick Crossley (IBM): +1
[07:40] Harish (SoftwareAG): +1
[07:41] David Honey (IBM): Accepted.
[07:47] David Honey (IBM): Issue 10, Normalizing Preview and Dialog: Currently, some inconsistency in OSLC 2.0 resize, horizontal versus vertical.
[07:47] David Honey (IBM): Does the proposal address this?
[07:48] David Honey (IBM): Preview and dialog are currently two difference documents. If this is common, where should this be described?
[07:49] David Honey (IBM): Preview document could refer to the Dialog document for the details about the dialog descriptor.
[07:50] David Honey (IBM): Proposal: Attendees to consider this in preparation for discussion at the next meeting.
[07:53] David Honey (IBM): Can get preview directly from link header rather than getting the compact data. Saves a round-trip.
[07:56] David Honey (IBM): Issue 11, OSLC Overview document: Need to check what OASIS citation format and patent reference should be used. Needs to be adopted in Respec template.
[08:00] David Honey (IBM): Nick: https://wiki.oasis-open.org/oslc-core/VocabStableURINotes should be converted from a Wiki page to a guidance document.
[08:05] David Honey (IBM): Standard practice is to make vocabularies (e.g. predicates and classes) discoverable by returning metadata from a GET.
[08:05] David Honey (IBM): Jim: Will raise a new issue for this.
[08:08] David Honey (IBM): Meeting closed.


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