Re: [oslc-core] Minutes from OSLC Core TC meeting July 9

[Martin P Pain <martinpain@uk.ibm.com>]

In the minutes, I think we need to at very
least split up the chat into the different agenda items. It's very difficult
to see what they contain in this format.

Kind regards,

Martin Pain
Software Developer - Green Hat
Rational Test Virtualization Server, Rational Test Control Panel

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From:      
 "Sarabura, Martin"
<msarabura@ptc.com>
To:      
 "OASIS (oslc-core@lists.oasis-open.org)"
<oslc-core@lists.oasis-open.org>
Date:      
 12/07/2015 01:22
Subject:    
   [oslc-core]
Minutes from OSLC Core TC meeting July 9
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Next meeting https://wiki.oasis-open.org/oslc-core/Meetings/Telecon2015.07.23
 
Attendees
    Bill Chown (Mentor Graphics)
    David Honey (IBM)
    Harish (SoftwareAG)
    Jean-Luc Johnson (Airbus)
    Jim Amsden (IBM)
    Jim Ruehlin (IBM)
    Martin Pain (IBM)
    Martin Sarabura (PTC) 
 
Resolutions
    Proceed with the proposed
V2 compatibility policy as outlined in https://wiki.oasis-open.org/oslc-core/V2Compatibility

 
Actions
    The current list of voting
members will be published along with the agenda prior to each meeting
    Jim A and Martin S to meet
next week to discuss project timeline
    Martin P to update Issue
9; final review and vote at next meeting
    Vote on adoption of issue
13 and dropping issue 10 at next meeting 
 
[07:04] David Honey (IBM): David agreed
to be scribe.
[07:17] List of attendees: Bill Chown (Mentor
Graphics), David Honey (IBM), Harish (SoftwareAG), Jean-Luc Johnson (Airbus),
Jim Amsden (IBM), Jim Ruehlin (IBM), Martin Pain (IBM), Martin Sarabura
(PTC)
[07:06] Jim Amsden (IBM): See https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/oslc-core/ballots.php
[07:06] Martin Sarabura (PTC): https://wiki.oasis-open.org/oslc-core/V2Compatibility#preview
[07:09] Martin Sarabura (PTC): https://wiki.oasis-open.org/oslc-core/Meetings/Telecon2015.06.11
[07:10] David Honey (IBM): Minutes from
previous meeting 11th June approved.
[07:10] Martin Sarabura (PTC): Sorry to
interrupt, Jim
[07:13] David Honey (IBM): Jim: Current
list of voting members needs updating. TC needs minimum of 5 voting members.
We should review this next meeting.
[07:20] David Honey (IBM): Supported media
types, proposal is that where V2 had a MUST for application/rdf+xml, in
V3 this should be a SHOULD.
[07:20] David Honey (IBM): Better compatibility
with W3C LDP (Linked Data Platform).
[07:22] David Honey (IBM): Discovery: V3
is more dynamic/incremental than V2 and based on LDPCs and link headers.
V2 uses service provider catalog.
[07:23] David Honey (IBM): V3 currently
does not include service provider catalog. Implication is it should be
included in V3 for compatibility.
[07:26] David Honey (IBM): Martin Pain
has proposal for LDPCS.
[07:26] David Honey (IBM): General agreement
V3 should include both V2 service proivider catalog and new LDPC discovery.
[07:28] David Honey (IBM): Preview: small
differences, not seen as a big issue.
[07:28] David Honey (IBM): Query service:
It is OK for V3 spec to have normative references to V2 spec so can include
support for query if needed.
[07:30] David Honey (IBM): Resource paging:
Some differences. Should support W3C LDP paging when spec reaches consensus/stability.
[07:31] David Honey (IBM): Preference is
to have references to V2 normative sections rather than duplicate in V3
spec.
[07:32] David Honey (IBM): Resource constraints:
Minor change to use ldp:constrainedBy to have the same value as oslc:instanceShape.
[07:32] David Honey (IBM): Tracked Resource
Set: No issues.
[07:33] David Honey (IBM): Actions, Automation:
Refer to V2.0 sections.
[07:34] David Honey (IBM): Summary of biggest
issues: Discovery, references from 3.0 to V2.0 normative sections.
[07:35] Martin Sarabura (PTC): http://tools.oasis-open.org/version-control/browse/wsvn/oslc-core/specs/compat.html
[07:36] David Honey (IBM): Jim: Proposes
to move compatibility document into main spec.
[07:41] David Honey (IBM): Proposal is
to accept the proposed changes form compatibility document.
[07:39] David Honey (IBM): +1
[07:39] Harish (SoftwareAG): +1
[07:39] Jean-Luc Johnson (Airbus): +1
[07:40] Martin Pain (IBM)1: +1 (non-voting
member)
[07:40] Martin Sarabura (PTC): +1
[07:40] Bill Chown (Mentor Graphics): 0
(non voting)
[07:40] Jim Amsden (IBM): +1
[07:42] David Honey (IBM): Jim will proceed
with the proposed edits.
[07:42] Jim Ruehlin (IBM): +1 (non-voting
member) (1) Yes (2) +1 (non-voting member) This is a single choice vote.
[07:42] Jim Ruehlin (IBM): please ignore
vote that I initiated.
[07:43] David Honey (IBM): Anyone working
on a 3.0 implementation?
[07:43] David Honey (IBM): Lyo reference
implementation is based on 3.0
[07:45] David Honey (IBM): FYI, there is
an implementation of LDP on Bluemix.
[07:46] David Honey (IBM): Bill: Mentor
Graphics will be implementing on 3.0, but timescales currently unknown.
[07:48] Jean-Luc Johnson (Airbus): Jean-Luc
Johnson (Airbus) voted for: +1 (non-voting member)
[07:48] David Honey (IBM): Roadmap and
dates needs reviewing, impact of compatibility changes. Jim proposed meeting
with Martin S to review dates.
[07:51] David Honey (IBM): Is timescale
acceptable? If it needs to be sooner, we need more resourcing/editors to
accelerate.
[07:57] Martin Sarabura (PTC): https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OSLCCORE-9
[07:57] Martin Pain (IBM)1: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oslc-core/201503/msg00016.html
[07:58] Bill Chown (Mentor Graphics): I
have to drop off at the hour. I will be attending more in future
[08:01] Harish (SoftwareAG): I have to
drop off now as well. Will catch up with the minutes later.
[08:02] David Honey (IBM): Martin to write
a specific proposal on https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OSLCCORE-9
that can be reviewed next meeting.
[08:02] anonymous morphed into Harish (Software
AG)
[08:09] David Honey (IBM): Providing link
header on any REST response might place an undue burden on implementations
having to change many different front service implementations.
[08:09] David Honey (IBM): Using a root
"/" container is problematic - security, and there might be many
different application context roots underneath it.
[08:12] David Honey (IBM): What if application's
home page URI provided the URI of the service provider catalog.
[08:13] David Honey (IBM): Advantage is
that users typically knows the URI of the application home page.
[08:14] David Honey (IBM): https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OSLCCORE-13?jql=project%20%3D%20OSLCCORE
[08:15] David Honey (IBM): https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OSLCCORE-13
[08:21] David Honey (IBM): Propose we discuss
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OSLCCORE-13
next meeting and take vote.
[08:23] David Honey (IBM): https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OSLCCORE-10
[08:23] David Honey (IBM): Jim proposes
dropping this due to compatibility concerns.
[08:25] David Honey (IBM): Vote on this
in next meeting.
[08:31] David Honey (IBM): https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OSLCCORE-14
[08:31] David Honey (IBM): Meeting adjourned.
 

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