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Subject: OSLC CORE TC Minutes July 21, 2016
Note: Still waiting for status update from the OASIS technical advisory board Scribe
Attendees
Regrets
Resolutions Actions
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Nick to update
ReSpec template and send email pointing to it
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Jim post issue about other changes related to Chet's feedback that should be easy for
ReSpec to handle Chat transcript from room: oslc [07:06] Martin Sarabura (PTC): Martin volunteers to be scribe
[07:07] Martin Sarabura (PTC):
https://wiki.oasis-open.org/oslc-core/Meetings/Telecon2016.06.23
[07:07] Martin Sarabura (PTC): June 23 minutes accepted
[07:08] Martin Sarabura (PTC):
https://wiki.oasis-open.org/oslc-core/Meetings/Telecon2016.07.21
[07:08] Martin Sarabura (PTC): First topic: Add CCM to core tc?
[07:09] Martin Sarabura (PTC): Jim: Possibility of diluting the core focus - fragmentation of resources vs coupling of independent deliverables
[07:10] Martin Sarabura (PTC): Martin: Readers would consider all TC outputs to be part of spec anyway regardless of which TC published it
[07:10] Martin Sarabura (PTC): Jim: New TC domain committee being formed
[07:11] Martin Sarabura (PTC): Mandate to migrate documents to OASIS structure without making substantive changes
[07:12] Martin Sarabura (PTC): What about two OSLC TCs? One for core technologies, one for domains
[07:12] Martin Sarabura (PTC): Thus Change Mgmt would naturally belong in domains, config mgmt in core
[07:14] Martin Sarabura (PTC): David: A good model, you can choose which to attend and hopefully the one you choose to attend is aligned with your interests
[07:14] Martin Sarabura (PTC): Jim: Core was a fair amount of work, similarly config mgmt. Putting both into same TC could make meetings quite long...
[07:15] Martin Sarabura (PTC): Action: Martin to check with Chet on our current publication status
[07:15] Martin Sarabura (PTC): Jim: Maybe not as much to do in these areas now
[07:17] Martin Sarabura (PTC): Jean-Luc: Config mgmt has impact on domains and on core - no way to express how service provider is configuration enabled
[07:18] Martin Sarabura (PTC): That could be a short-term solution, then we can talk about reorg later
[07:20] Martin Sarabura (PTC): Jim has had this conversation with Nick previously - domains including config mgmt are largely independent of core
[07:21] Martin Sarabura (PTC): Note all core capabilities are optional, including discovery
[07:23] Martin Sarabura (PTC): Of course a service provider that is less capable in the area of discovery has a more limited applicability
[07:24] Martin Sarabura (PTC): Jim: There is a method to determine whether config mgmt is supported
[07:25] Martin Sarabura (PTC): David: Hybrid model also possible - same service provider can serve some resources that are configuration-aware, others not
[07:26] Martin Sarabura (PTC): Perhaps best for ccm tc to address
[07:27] Martin Sarabura (PTC): Jim: Support for configuration management is a property of container, not server
[07:28] Martin Sarabura (PTC): Action items
[07:29] Martin Sarabura (PTC): Nick has not yet modified and republished respec - Jim was still able to use it
[07:29] Martin Sarabura (PTC): Leave on the list
[07:29] Martin Sarabura (PTC): Jim noticed a few other things that may need to be updated
[07:30] Martin Sarabura (PTC): Based on feedback from Chet
[07:30] Martin Sarabura (PTC): Jim to tell Nick about these other possible changes
[07:30] Martin Sarabura (PTC): Jim will post as issue
[07:31] Martin Sarabura (PTC): Nick's local copies same as online
[07:31] Martin Sarabura (PTC): David has raised issues - action item complete
[07:32] Martin Sarabura (PTC): 70 - two creates
[07:32] Martin Sarabura (PTC): also 71, 72
[07:32] Martin Sarabura (PTC): Nick posted issue re delegated access control - 68
[07:33] Martin Sarabura (PTC): Jim's action item covered by 72
[07:34] Martin Sarabura (PTC): Next topic: TRS document first pass
[07:34] Martin Sarabura (PTC): Jim has a few issues: 69 - missing references RDF-VAL etc
[07:34] Martin Sarabura (PTC): 69 should be closed
[07:35] Martin Sarabura (PTC):
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OSLCCORE-74
[07:36] Martin Sarabura (PTC): Do we need acc namespace? Already published, we can't get rid of it
[07:37] Martin Sarabura (PTC): David: Does access control have wider applicability than TRS?
[07:37] Martin Sarabura (PTC): Likely it does, therefore we should keep it separate
[07:38] Martin Sarabura (PTC): Close it, don't merge
[07:38] Martin Sarabura (PTC):
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OSLCCORE-73
[07:40] Martin Sarabura (PTC): Jim proposes publishing as separate document(s). Reason is practicality - we're not ready to add the document to the current core lineup
[07:40] Martin Sarabura (PTC): David: Agree, especially since many fewer implementations of TRS
[07:42] Martin Sarabura (PTC): Doesn't require a vote since we would not be changing anything in our process
[07:42] Martin Sarabura (PTC):
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OSLCCORE-75
[07:43] Martin Sarabura (PTC): Jim: Problem is TRS CUD in current spec are individuals, not classes and yet shapes table has properties for them
[07:43] Martin Sarabura (PTC): eg., type, change and order
[07:44] Martin Sarabura (PTC): New class called change event having 3 three properties and having 3 instances
[07:44] Martin Sarabura (PTC): David: Ontology would align better
[07:46] Martin Sarabura (PTC): Jim: Change CUD to 3 new classes with new properties, create change event shape that constrains those classes, not subclasses of anything
[07:48] Martin Sarabura (PTC): David: Set of data is same, with same meaning - why 3 classes?
[07:48] Martin Sarabura (PTC): David: Propose abstract base class, with 3 concrete instances
[07:48] Martin Sarabura (PTC): Jim: Inheritance doesn't work in resource shapes so you're not really gaining anything
[07:49] Martin Sarabura (PTC): So it's OK to have one class
[07:50] Martin Sarabura (PTC): Comments on the document?
[07:50] Martin Sarabura (PTC): David: Sections 3.1 through 3.4 are empty.
[07:52] Jim Amsden (IBM):
https://tools.oasis-open.org/version-control/svn/oslc-core/trunk/specs/tracked-resource-set.html#resources
[07:54] Martin Sarabura (PTC): Link in the agenda had fragments in it which somehow resulted in those sections being trimmed out
[07:54] Martin Sarabura (PTC): Jim:
ReSpec problem [07:55] Martin Sarabura (PTC): Jim: Some mistakes in the shapes. Investigating...
[07:57] Martin Sarabura (PTC):
ChangeEvent doesn't have name. Currently
ReSpec says it has a name trs#Deletion
[07:58] Martin Sarabura (PTC): Jim will have to figure out what's going on.
[07:58] Martin Sarabura (PTC): Meeting adjourned
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