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Subject: Re: [pbd-se] Ad Hoc Meeting to Discuss Comments on NISTIR 8062

Hi, Is there a call now? I am on Gershon's line, but there is no one there.

Best, Gail

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 8:24 AM, Grow, Richard C.(Technatomy) <Richard.Grow@va.gov> wrote:

Hi All,


As mentioned on Wednesday’s PbD TC meeting, we will be holding an initial ad hoc meeting next Tuesday, June 16 at 10 a.m. EDT to discuss comments that the PMRM and PbD TCs would like to submit to NIST regarding its draft report NISTIR 8062, Privacy Risk Management for Federal Information Systems. The phone information for this ad hoc meeting will be sent out soon.


Here is a link to the NIST announcement on the public comment period for this report: http://csrc.nist.gov/publications/PubsDrafts.html#NIST-IR-8062.


Please review the attached document (NISTIR 8062), use the attached matrix to add comments, and be prepared to discuss responses to the comments at the meeting.


NIST specifically wants responses to the following questions:


Privacy Risk Management Framework:

1.       Does the framework provide a process that will help organizations make more informed system development decisions with respect to privacy?

2.       Does the framework seem likely to help bridge the communication gap between technical and non-technical personnel?

3.       Are there any gaps in the framework?


Privacy Engineering Objectives:

1.       Do these objectives seem likely to assist system designers and engineers in building information systems that are capable of supporting agencies’ privacy goals and requirements?

2.       Are there properties or capabilities that systems should have that these objectives do not cover?


Privacy Risk Model:

1.       Does the equation seem likely to be effective in helping agencies to distinguish between cybersecurity and privacy risks?

2.       Can data actions be evaluated as the document proposes?

3.       Is the approach of identifying and assessing problematic data actions usable and actionable?

4.       Should context be a key input to the privacy risk model? If not, why not? If so, does this model incorporate context appropriately? Would more guidance on the consideration of context be helpful?

5.       The NISTIR describes the difficulty of assessing the impact of problematic data actions on individuals alone, and incorporates organizational impact into the risk assessment. Is this appropriate or should impact be assessed for individuals alone? If so, what would be the factors in such an assessment?


We will have a second ad hoc meeting on the following Tuesday, June 23 to hold further discussions and finalize the comments before the comment submission deadline of Monday, July 13 at 5 p.m. EDT.




Rick Grow

Veterans Health Administration





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