Re: [pki-education] FW: Consultant Cost

[Steve Hanna <shanna@funk.com>]

June,

Thanks for gathering this information. I think
there are three separate jobs here:

1) Write missing documents
2) Update web site to point at documents (new and old)
3) Maintain web site

Item 1) requires a substantial amount of work and
expertise with PKI. The amount of work required and
specific skills needed depends on what documents
we decide need to be written. As a rough estimate,
I would guess it might take 5-7 person-days for an
experienced individual to write a first draft of
an in-depth analysis document and another 5-7 days
to revise it in response to comments.

Item 2) should be pretty easy since we'll be supplying
a list of documents with URLs. I doubt it will take
more than one person-day.

Item 3) will probably require one day per month, maybe
even less.

I suspect we could get volunteers to do 2) and 3).
If we're hiring a consultant anyway, I'd be glad to
tack them on the list, though.

So let me give my answers to your questions:

 > 1) Do we need contractors?

Only if we need to write a new document.

 > 2) How many hours a week would we need this person?

Depends on how many documents must be written.

 > 3) Will this be an ongoing contractor or only for a few months?

Only a few months unless there are other ongoing
tasks which can be bundled in.

 > 4) If it's only for a few months, what do we do for maintenance of 
the site?

Volunteers. Would be better to have a contractor,
but probably not worthwhile for them at one day
a month or less.

 > 5) Would the same contractor be writing documentation as well as 
revamping the site?

Sure.

Thanks,

Steve

June Leung wrote:
> Good Morning,
> 
> In our previous conference call, we discussed that maybe it's a good idea to come up a proposal to hire a contractor to revamp/update the PKI member section resource page as well as have this person write the 'gap' information on our behalf.  I see the resource page falls under the responsibility of the Education SC because it includes Education Materials on PKI.
> 
> I've asked John Sabo to provide me with some information regarding the contractor he hired 1.5 years ago and I've attached his response.
> 
> I am in the middle of compiling our list and it will provide us with more info on the 'missing' documentation.
> 
> The link below points to the existing resources.  We also have to find a spot to publish our progress to date. 
> http://www.pkiforum.org/resources.html
> 
> Let me know your thoughts.
> 
> 1) Do we need contractors?
> 2) How many hours a week would we need this person?
> 3) Will this be an ongoing contractor or only for a few months?
> 4) If it's only for a few months, what do we do for maintenance of the site?
> 5) Would the same contractor be writing documentation as well as revamping the site?  
> 
> thanks june
> 
> June Leung
> Manager, PKI Department
> FundSERV Inc.
> 1730 130 King St W
> Toronto ON M5X 1E5
> T. 416.350.2516
> F. 416.362.6668 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sabo, John T [mailto:John.T.Sabo@ca.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 9:30 PM
> To: June Leung
> Subject: RE: Consultant Cost
> 
> 
> June,
> 
> The contract cost was $5000, and was for 30-day effort, not to exceed
> 200 hours. As it turns out, this was a special arrangement with an
> expert individual who happened to be available and capable of performing
> the services at a heavily discounted hourly rate.  My suspicion is that
> just for updating the site, however, we could probably get a more junior
> person who would work for this type of compensation.
> 
> I'm inserting the service deliverables from the contract related to the
> Web site and resource maintenance (there were a few other deliverables
> for OASIS management not related to the resources page etc.).  I can
> provide the contract boilerplate later if you want to see the whole
> thing, but this should give you what you need.
> 
> John
> -------------------------------------------------
> 
> Consultant shall perform the following services:
> 
> These are the types of activities in which the consultant will be
> engaged going forward; Consulting Projects, Strategic Business
> Development, New Membership Sales and New Portal Sponsorship Sales. 
> 
> Consulting Projects
> 
> #1. Task Overview: Review and Update the OASIS PKI Members Section "PKI
> Resources" Web Page 
> 
> Performance Period: 30 days 
> 
> Performance Hours: Not To Exceed  200 hours
> 
> Project Fee:	$5,000 to be paid within 15 days of completion or work
> scope (to the satisfaction of the Company and OASIS PKI Member Section
> Steering Committee Chair)
> 
> Project Management:  This work will be done under the direction of John
> Sabo designated representative from the OASIS PKI Member Section
> Steering Committee. Coordination with OASIS resources will be done
> through the OASIS Director of Communications.
> 
> Scope of Work: 
> 
> 1. Review existing OASIS PKI Resources Web Page for working and broken
> links and proper categorization of subjects.
> 
> 2. Correct existing links. 
> 
> 3. Research global PKI-related resources and links across the breadth of
> subject areas and topics, including PKI technologies, policies, legal
> and business issues, digital certificates, government and private sector
> organizations, standards, implementations, studies, vendor information,
> and any online material relevant to the use of digital certificates,
> PKI, public key cryptography and related technologies, including OASIS
> and other standards in which PKI and digital certificates are used.
> 
> 4. Identify and define appropriate categories for resources and links
> and organize resource lists appropriately for utility and clarity as an
> authoritative, accurate and exhaustive online resource.
> 
> 5. Ensure that links are succinctly and accurately described. 
> 
> 6. Provide edited page(s) using HTML editor to Steering Committee per
> schedule to be negotiated. 
> 
> 7. Provide proposed updates on a scheduled basis for review by the PKI
> MS steering committee and PKI Technical Committee as determined by the
> Steering Committee and for final approval by the PKI MS Steering
> Committee.
> 
> 8. Once approved by PKI MS Steering Committee, work as necessary with
> OASIS Webmaster to make the new content available on the Web site.
> 
> 9. All research, resource descriptions, etc. are the property of OASIS. 
> 
> 9. This will be a one-time update.  However, OASIS may seek ongoing
> services to maintain quality and accuracy of the resources page.
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
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> Manager, Security Privacy and Trust Initiatives
> Computer Associates International
> 2291 Wood Oak Drive
> Herndon, Virginia, 20171
> USA
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: June Leung [mailto:June.Leung@FundSERV.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 2:43 PM
> To: Sabo, John T
> Subject: Consultant Cost
> 
> Hi John,
> The Education SC is putting a proposal together to hire a contractor to
> assist us in updating documents on the Oasis PKI member section and to
> write some documentation.  Similar to what the LC TC is looking at.
> Can you give me an idea how much time the contractor spent on updating
> the site and the cost of it?  ie - how much an hour? 
> I would like to put something together and mail it to the TC on Monday.
> thanks june
> 
> 
> June Leung
> Manager, PKI Department
> FundSERV Inc.
> 1730 130 King St W
> Toronto ON M5X 1E5
> T. 416.350.2516
> F. 416.362.6668 
> 
>