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Subject: Comments relating to Application Guidelines


I have reviewed all the comments sent by John Sabo
and myself in the last few days, found those that
pertain to Application Guidelines, and given them
a tracking number and a recommendation or commentary.
Please find all of that at the end of this message.

Thanks,

Steve

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Comments relating to Application Guidelines:

steve.hanna@sun.com-20031014-Guidelines-1
Brief Quote:
  I think asking *user* communities what they need is
  really important.  E.g. what do they want in terms
  of that nebulous "electronic commerce"?  Does that
  really mean "I want to make money so I'll go where
  the money is - commerce?", or does it mean something
  else more helpful?
Commentary/Recommendation:
  Repeat of steve.hanna@sun.com-20031024-Guidelines-3.
  See my commentary/recommendation there.

steve.hanna@sun.com-20031014-Guidelines-2
Brief Quote:
  And on document signing, for me the biggest issue
  is document formats and providing some assurance
  that what you signed is what you saw. Both of these
  are hard in the current environment. The most popular
  "document" formats are proprietary, complex and very
  susceptible to making them look one way when signed
  and another way when validated. This makes
  interoperability pretty hard.

  An update on xml-signature would be nice. But I'm
  personally still a fan of plain text signed with
  S/MIME or PGP until something better comes along.
Commentary/Recommendation:
  I recommend that this good advice be passed on to
  whoever gets tasked with developing application
  guidelines for document signing.

anders.rundgren@telia.com-20031016-Guidelines-3
Brief Quote:
  AFAIK web-based signing in spite of being a much needed
  feature for on-line activties is not even a standards task.
  Every bank, e-government have therefore to deploy their
  own unique or purchased signature plugin.
Commentary/Recommendation:
  Again, I recommend that this be passed on to whoever
  works on application guidelines for document signing.
  No change to the PKI Action Plan is needed.

steve.hanna@sun.com-20031020-Guidelines-4
Brief Quote:
  Although controversial, we might learn a lot by critiqueing
  existing PKI-enabled applications and explaining the problems
  and/or how they could have made things simpler or more
  interoperable.
Commentary/Recommendation:
  When developing application guidelines, reviewing existing
  PKI-enabled applications for lessons learned is a good idea.
  However, I'm not sure that this needs to be mentioned explicitly
  in the PKI Action Plan (especially since it may be controversial).
  Therefore, I recommend that it be omitted from the plan. It
  can be passed on as a recommendation to anyone who is developing
  application guidelines.

jhilton@viviale.com-20031021-Guidelines-5
Brief Quote:
  I particularly support the concept of application guidelines/standards
  "cookbooks".. anything that OASIS can do to overcome the 
  real/potential interoperability issues for vendors and user 
  organisations should be welcomed. Providing some assurance that the 
  products from vendor "x" will work with products from vendors "y" and 
  "z" would be very very helpful in this increasingly "joined-up" world 
  of ours.
Commentary/Recommendation:
  Great! It's nice to have such support. No change needed.

steve.hanna@sun.com-20031024-Guidelines-6
Brief Quote:
  What do the respondents mean by electronic commerce?
  I said we don't know. We may need to do some more work
  there.
Commentary/Recommendation:
  Yes, I think we do need to work on this more. I suggest
  that one or two people go off and work on this, aiming
  to have a better analysis by January or February at the
  latest. Krishna Sankar volunteered to help. We could
  also go back to respondents who rated Electronic Commerce
  as very important and ask them what they meant.


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