RE: [pki-tc] RE: PKI Education SC status report

["Sabo, John T" <John.T.Sabo@ca.com>]

June,

Perhaps I misunderstood what you meant by a "link farm," but it sounds
the SC is recommending that we provide pointers to specific PKI topics,
which would imply organizing the links to provide focused information,
as you note below, and not simply providing a set of un-organized links.
If this is correct, then I am comfortable with the SC's perspectives.

Thanks to the SC for considering my comments.

John  


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-----Original Message-----
From: June Leung [mailto:June.Leung@FundServ.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 1:07 PM
To: Sabo, John T
Cc: Kefeng Chen (E-mail); Stephen Wilson (E-mail); PKI TC
Subject: RE: [pki-tc] RE: PKI Education SC status report

Hi John,

Thank you very much for your responses.
In the Education SC conference call last week, we reviewed your
comments.
We see your perspective in providing as many links as possible for
information on PKI.

However, upon further discussion, all of the PKI Education SC members
disagreed with this view.  There are plenty of PKI link farms out there.
For us to maintain another one would not help people to overcome
obstacles in deploying and using PKI. 

We have heard clearly in our survey responses and from our business
relationships that people want focused information.  They want pointers
to the information they need: PKI basics, business issues (benefits,
ROI, etc.), standards, and other key resources.  From our analysis, we
have identified the missing pieces in the PKI resource page like ROI
information and "how-to" documents (cookbooks, best practices, etc.).  

We believe that by providing the pointers to existing documents and
developing 'missing documents' in the PKI resource page would benefit
people and provide the greatest value to them when they are researching
info regarding PKI. 

thanks june

June Leung
Manager, PKI Department
FundSERV Inc.
1730 130 King St W
Toronto ON M5X 1E5
T. 416.350.2516
F. 416.362.6668 





-----Original Message-----
From: Sabo, John T [mailto:John.T.Sabo@ca.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 10:12 AM
To: June Leung; PKI TC
Subject: RE: [pki-tc] RE: PKI Education SC status report


June,

I am fully in support of updating and expanding our PKI related
information.  In fact, our ability to provide strong resources for all
aspects of PKI is a strength of our focus as a member section and the
TC's efforts. 

As I suggested on our conference call, I do not agree with the proposal
that we eliminate extensive links ("link farm") and instead link to
other "link farm" resources. As I understand this proposal, we would
reduce the number of categories to those proposed in the attachment, and
turn to other external Web sites for their links, and rely on their
approach to organizing the information.  I think this would be
counter-productive to our educational and research goals, and our value
as a major resource. Viewing our Web links and information as the "first
stop" only and maintaining a relatively static page may be necessary at
some point, but given our current budget situation, I believe we can
afford a more comprehensive approach.

In fact, I believe it is to our benefit to think even more expansively
about organizing our resources page than in the current PKI Forum
resources page, and have annotated categories for PKI from legal,
business process, security, Web Services, return on investment, vendor
resources, case studies, technical interoperability, policy
interoperability, hardware (including PKI on mobile devices, smart
cards, etc.), and other more granular categories.  I believe this would
enhance the value of our Web page resources, and reflect our
perspectives.  For example, a set of categories could be associated with
our subcommittees - costs, testing, etc.  This approach would reflect
our needs and interests and organized the way we believe is best, not
that of another Web site.

It would take time and regular review to produce this kind of resource,
but I believe it would be an excellent investment for the contractor we
discussed hiring for this and other purposes.   If at some point we were
unable to manage the maintenance of the site, then we could scale back
to a more modest approach as recommended.

John 


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-----Original Message-----
From: June Leung [mailto:June.Leung@fundserv.com]
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 3:41 PM
To: PKI TC
Subject: [pki-tc] RE: PKI Education SC status report

Hi Everyone,
It's been a week since we had the TC conference call.
I haven't receive any comments regarding our proposal for the
modification of the PKI resource page.
As I mentioned in the TC con call, this page is very important, it
includes a lot of information right now, do we want to streamline that?
What type of changes do you think it's valuable?
The Education SC is having a conference call in two weeks.  If you can
get back to us by Oct 4/04, we can discuss our strategy.
Thank you very much for your assistance.  (see attached proposal) june

June Leung
Manager, PKI Department
FundSERV Inc.
1730 130 King St W
Toronto ON M5X 1E5
T. 416.350.2516
F. 416.362.6668 





-----Original Message-----
From: June Leung
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 6:05 PM
To: PKI TC
Cc: Stephen Wilson (E-mail)
Subject: PKI Education SC status report


The Education SC had a fairly productive month, thanks to one of our SC
members -  Stephen Wilson's contribution.

Action Item:
Education SC to come up with a proposal for the PKI Forum Resource page
(see attached) From our discussions, we propose to divide the
information into the 4 categories based on the PKI Action Plan for the
Education SC.  We prefer not to maintain a 'link farm' in the PKI
resource page since links require constant maintenance and there are
also a number of link farms exist, we would rather include a link farm
section in our site.

Discussion:
We suggest that the Education SC post the ongoing efforts in the PKI
Forum Resource page since information will be divided in the 4
categories that match the PKI Action Plan.  A link in the Education SC
TC page will be pointing to this page.

Education SC update:
Thanks for some of the TC member's input, we were able to obtain more
info regarding ROI on PKI. (see attached) We would like to know if there
are TC members who have subscriptions to the Burton Group, there are 2
position papers we would like someone to review and let us know if there
are any information that would benefit our ROI analysis.

We also want to discuss with the Lower Costs subcommittee to explore the
benefits of ROI in lowering PKI costs.

Other Info:
I contacted the webmaster in Oasis, any modifications to the PKI Member
Section pages have to go through Oasis Web Master.
Any modifications to the TC page can be done by the TC chairs and
secretary.  The chairs of the subcommittees can also modify your own sub
page.

thanks june

June Leung
Manager, PKI Department
FundSERV Inc.
1730 130 King St W
Toronto ON M5X 1E5
T. 416.350.2516
F. 416.362.6668