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Subject: RE: [plcs-tog] RE: Documents from the TOG meeting


This gets my vote!
I knew you'd get there in the end ;-)
 
Do we need to get an official vote on this so that it can be recorded somewhere?
 
Martin.
-----Original Message-----
From: mats.nilsson@fmv.se [mailto:mats.nilsson@fmv.se]
Sent: 16 December 2005 12:38
To: plcs-tog@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: VB: [plcs-tog] RE: Documents from the TOG meeting

Nigel and I has reached a consensus.
 
   DEX = Data Exchange Specification = the definition in DEXlib
   DEX file = electronic file with actual data conforming to (complete or sections of) a DEX
   Data Exchange Set = a term grouping all PLCS entities and attributes identified by a DEX
 
Further comments?
 
Regards,
  Mats
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Mats Nilsson, FMV


Från: Nigel Newling [mailto:nfn@lsc.co.uk]
Skickat: den 16 december 2005 12:40
Till: Nilsson, Mats maxnn
Ämne: RE: [plcs-tog] RE: Documents from the TOG meeting

Now put it to the wider audience and stand back!
 
Nigel
-----Original Message-----
From: mats.nilsson@fmv.se [mailto:mats.nilsson@fmv.se]
Sent: 16 December 2005 10:54
To: nfn@lsc.co.uk
Subject: SV: [plcs-tog] RE: Documents from the TOG meeting

Summary:
 
DEX = Data Exchange Specification = the definition in DEXlib
DEX file = electronic file with actual data conforming to (complete or sections of) a DEX
Data Exchange Set = a term grouping all PLCS entities and attributes identified by a DEX
 
Correct?
 
Regards,
  Mats
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Mats Nilsson, FMV
 


Från: Nigel Newling [mailto:nfn@lsc.co.uk]
Skickat: den 15 december 2005 13:56
Till: Nilsson, Mats maxnn
Ämne: RE: [plcs-tog] RE: Documents from the TOG meeting

The Information displayed, following the selection of a DEX through the menu in DEXLib, is the DEX 'specification'. The entities and attributes identified in that specification comprise the DEX data 'set'
 
Best I can do :-)
-----Original Message-----
From: mats.nilsson@fmv.se [mailto:mats.nilsson@fmv.se]
Sent: 15 December 2005 09:50
To: nfn@lsc.co.uk
Subject: SV: [plcs-tog] RE: Documents from the TOG meeting

Set or Specification or both?
Howard did not specify...
What is your opinion?
 
Regards,
  Mats



Från: Nigel Newling [mailto:nfn@lsc.co.uk]
Skickat: den 15 december 2005 09:51
Till: plcs-tog@lists.oasis-open.org
Ämne: RE: [plcs-tog] RE: Documents from the TOG meeting

The term 'Set' was introduced when we were discussing the scope of 'data set' that should be defined by the DEX specification. Howard's contribution has my vote - and we should not shy away from CCs either!
 
Nigel
-----Original Message-----
From: Mason, Howard (UK) [mailto:howard.mason@baesystems.com]
Sent: 14 December 2005 17:43
To: mats.nilsson@fmv.se; kreilerc@mantech-wva.com; ils-de@a.dii.mod.uk; rob.bodington@eurostep.com
Cc: plcs-tog@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [plcs-tog] RE: Documents from the TOG meeting

At the risk of being contentious, we tend to refer to a STEP AP and its conformance classes.  Without wishing to equate a PLCS DEX with a STEP conformance class in detail, they are at the same level.
 
A conformance class is a specification, and individual conforming blocks of data are files.
 
Also we never defined the silent "s" in DEX.
 
This kind of suggests to me that DEX is the specification (Data EXchange (set or specification)) and an instance is a DEX(-compliant) file.
 
Howard Mason


From: mats.nilsson@fmv.se [mailto:mats.nilsson@fmv.se]
Sent: 14 December 2005 15:43
To: kreilerc@mantech-wva.com; ils-de@a.dii.mod.uk; rob.bodington@eurostep.com
Cc: plcs-tog@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: SV: [plcs-tog] RE: Documents from the TOG meeting

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Chris,
 
My opinion is that we still are at a point where terminology could be changed, if it is useful and brings clarity to our work. Still, more than 99.99998%* of the worlds population is unaware of PLCS and its terminology (poor creatures...) ;o)
 
More opinions wanted...
 
Regards,
 Mats
 
*) Calculated as; 1 000 / 6 300 000 000


Från: Chris Kreiler [mailto:kreilerc@mantech-wva.com]
Skickat: den 14 december 2005 13:57
Till: 'Gibson, Martin'; Nilsson, Mats maxnn; rob.bodington@eurostep.com
Kopia: plcs-tog@lists.oasis-open.org
Ämne: RE: [plcs-tog] RE: Documents from the TOG meeting

Martin and Mats,

 

Although it is a minor point, I think we should be careful about changing the terminology at this point due to the recognition that Data Exchange Set enjoys among most of our customers.

 

Just my 2 cents before the snow storm here in West Virginia.

 

 


From: Gibson, Martin [mailto:ils-de@a.dii.mod.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 3:13 AM
To: 'mats.nilsson@fmv.se'; rob.bodington@eurostep.com
Cc: plcs-tog@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [plcs-tog] RE: Documents from the TOG meeting

 

Mats,

 

My view is that it should be 'Data Exchange Specification'

 

Regards,

Martin.

-----Original Message-----
From: mats.nilsson@fmv.se [mailto:mats.nilsson@fmv.se]
Sent: 14 December 2005 08:05
To: ils-de@a.dii.mod.uk; rob.bodington@eurostep.com
Cc: plcs-tog@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: SV: [plcs-tog] RE: Documents from the TOG meeting

Another question: If I want to use the non-abbreviated term for 'DEX'. Should I then pronounce/write it "Data exchange set" (which for my swedish ears much sounds like file (file = a 'set' of data)) or "Data exchange specification"?

Regards - Mats

 

Martin,

Thanks for the clarification!

I'm ok with that. As long as everyone understands eachother! 'DEX' and 'DEX file' it is!

Regards,
  Mats
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Mats Nilsson, FMV

 

 


Från: Gibson, Martin [mailto:ils-de@a.dii.mod.uk]
Skickat: den 7 december 2005 11:33
Till: Nilsson, Mats maxnn
Ämne: RE: [plcs-tog] RE: Documents from the TOG meeting

Mats,

 

Hope you enjoyed yesterday's telecon/meeting (as much as I did!).

I'm not sure it was mentioned within the telecon, but , you are correct in your guess that the ToG Agreed that the term 'DEX' is synonymous with the term 'DEX Specification' and that a 'DEX file' is indeed that file which would be exchanged as part of a PLCS implementation.

 

Regards,

Martin.

 

 -----Original Message-----
From: mats.nilsson@fmv.se [mailto:mats.nilsson@fmv.se]
Sent: 06 December 2005 08:13
To: rob.bodington@eurostep.com; plcs-tog@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: SV: [plcs-tog] RE: Documents from the TOG meeting

All,

 

Is the visio diagram a result of the review of the concept model draft?

 

It lacks some of the terms in the concept model (DEX file, Requirements, etc.) and it refers to 'DEX Specifications' as 'DEXs'.

I did not attend the meeting. Is this what was agreed?

 

I like the graphical layout though (except for the 'uses' arrow pointing to 'Business Reference Data' that has no source...).

Should I put it in the DEXlib information pages (new name for the help section...) and in that way prepare it for ballot?!

 

Maybe something for the meeting this afternoon?

Regards,
  Mats
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Mats Nilsson, FMV

 

 

 


Från: Rob Bodington [mailto:rob.bodington@eurostep.com]
Skickat: den 6 december 2005 08:00
Till: plcs-tog@lists.oasis-open.org
Kopia: Sean Barker
Ämne: [plcs-tog] RE: Documents from the TOG meeting

Hi

I have had several requests for a non Visio version of the diagram.

 

 

Regards
Rob

-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Bodington [mailto:rob.bodington@eurostep.com]
Sent: 30 November 2005 14:12
To: 'plcs-tog@lists.oasis-open.org'
Cc: Sean Barker (Sean.Barker@baesystems.com)
Subject: Documents from the TOG meeting

 

Hi

Here are the diagrams/spreadsheets that we developed in the TOG.

 

We went through all DEXs (apart from 5 and 9) and identified which capabilities were required. We then looked at who as editing it and whether they were funded. The spreadsheet reflects results of this.

 

We also reviewed the concept model and produced the attached Visio diagram.

 

Regards

Rob

 

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