This offers the best compromise for
describing what we are building. I vote yes!
From:
mats.nilsson@fmv.se [mailto:mats.nilsson@fmv.se]
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005
7:38 AM
To: plcs-tog@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: VB: [plcs-tog] RE:
Documents from the TOG meeting
Nigel and I has reached a consensus.
DEX = Data Exchange Specification = the
definition in DEXlib
DEX file = electronic file with actual
data conforming to (complete or sections of) a DEX
Data Exchange Set = a term grouping all
PLCS entities and attributes identified by a DEX
Regards,
Mats
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Från:
Nigel Newling [mailto:nfn@lsc.co.uk]
Skickat: den 16 december 2005
12:40
Till: Nilsson, Mats maxnn
Ämne: RE: [plcs-tog] RE: Documents
from the TOG meeting
Now put it to the wider audience and
stand back!
-----Original Message-----
From: mats.nilsson@fmv.se [mailto:mats.nilsson@fmv.se]
Sent: 16 December 2005 10:54
To: nfn@lsc.co.uk
Subject: SV: [plcs-tog] RE:
Documents from the TOG meeting
Summary:
DEX = Data Exchange Specification = the definition
in DEXlib
DEX file = electronic file with actual data conforming
to (complete or sections of) a DEX
Data Exchange Set = a term grouping all PLCS
entities and attributes identified by a DEX
Regards,
Mats
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Mats Nilsson, FMV
Från:
Nigel Newling [mailto:nfn@lsc.co.uk]
Skickat: den 15 december 2005
13:56
Till: Nilsson, Mats maxnn
Ämne: RE: [plcs-tog] RE: Documents
from the TOG meeting
The Information displayed, following the
selection of a DEX through the menu in DEXLib, is the
DEX 'specification'. The entities and attributes identified in that
specification comprise the DEX data 'set'
-----Original Message-----
From: mats.nilsson@fmv.se
[mailto:mats.nilsson@fmv.se]
Sent: 15 December 2005 09:50
To: nfn@lsc.co.uk
Subject: SV: [plcs-tog] RE:
Documents from the TOG meeting
Set or Specification or both?
Howard did not specify...
Från:
Nigel Newling [mailto:nfn@lsc.co.uk]
Skickat: den 15 december 2005
09:51
Till: plcs-tog@lists.oasis-open.org
Ämne: RE: [plcs-tog] RE: Documents
from the TOG meeting
The term 'Set' was introduced when we
were discussing the scope of 'data set' that should
be defined by the DEX specification. Howard's contribution has my
vote - and we should not shy away from CCs either!
-----Original Message-----
From: Mason, Howard (UK)
[mailto:howard.mason@baesystems.com]
Sent: 14 December 2005 17:43
To: mats.nilsson@fmv.se;
kreilerc@mantech-wva.com; ils-de@a.dii.mod.uk; rob.bodington@eurostep.com
Cc: plcs-tog@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [plcs-tog] RE:
Documents from the TOG meeting
At the risk of being contentious, we tend
to refer to a STEP AP and its conformance classes. Without wishing to
equate a PLCS DEX with a STEP conformance class in detail, they are at the same
level.
A conformance class is a specification,
and individual conforming blocks of data are files.
Also we never defined the silent
"s" in DEX.
This kind of suggests to me that DEX is
the specification (Data EXchange (set or specification)) and an instance is a
DEX(-compliant) file.
Howard Mason
From:
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Chris,
My opinion is that we still are at a point
where terminology could be changed, if it is useful and brings clarity to our
work. Still, more than 99.99998%* of the worlds population is unaware of
PLCS and its terminology (poor creatures...) ;o)
*) Calculated as; 1 000 / 6 300 000 000
Från:
Chris Kreiler [mailto:kreilerc@mantech-wva.com]
Skickat: den 14 december 2005
13:57
Till: 'Gibson, Martin'; Nilsson,
Mats maxnn; rob.bodington@eurostep.com
Kopia:
plcs-tog@lists.oasis-open.org
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from the TOG meeting
Martin and Mats,
Although it is a minor point, I think we
should be careful about changing the terminology at this point due to the
recognition that Data Exchange Set enjoys among most of our customers.
Just my 2 cents before the snow storm here
in West Virginia.
From: Gibson, Martin
[mailto:ils-de@a.dii.mod.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005
3:13 AM
To: 'mats.nilsson@fmv.se';
rob.bodington@eurostep.com
Cc: plcs-tog@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [plcs-tog] RE:
Documents from the TOG meeting
My view is that it
should be 'Data Exchange Specification'
-----Original Message-----
From: mats.nilsson@fmv.se
[mailto:mats.nilsson@fmv.se]
Sent: 14 December 2005 08:05
To: ils-de@a.dii.mod.uk;
rob.bodington@eurostep.com
Cc: plcs-tog@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: SV: [plcs-tog] RE:
Documents from the TOG meeting
Another question:
If I want to use the non-abbreviated term for 'DEX'. Should I
then pronounce/write it "Data exchange set" (which for my
swedish ears much sounds like file (file = a 'set' of data)) or "Data
exchange specification"?
Regards - Mats
Martin,
Thanks for the clarification!
I'm ok with that. As long as everyone
understands eachother! 'DEX' and 'DEX file' it is!
Regards,
Mats
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Från:
Gibson, Martin [mailto:ils-de@a.dii.mod.uk]
Skickat: den 7 december 2005 11:33
Till: Nilsson, Mats maxnn
Ämne: RE: [plcs-tog] RE: Documents
from the TOG meeting
Hope you enjoyed
yesterday's telecon/meeting (as much as I did!).
I'm not sure it was
mentioned within the telecon, but , you are correct in your guess that the ToG
Agreed that the term 'DEX' is synonymous with the term 'DEX Specification' and
that a 'DEX file' is indeed that file which would be exchanged as part of
a PLCS implementation.
-----Original Message-----
From: mats.nilsson@fmv.se
[mailto:mats.nilsson@fmv.se]
Sent: 06 December 2005 08:13
To: rob.bodington@eurostep.com;
plcs-tog@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: SV: [plcs-tog] RE:
Documents from the TOG meeting
All,
Is the visio diagram a
result of the review of the concept model draft?
It lacks some of the terms in the concept model
(DEX file,
Requirements, etc.) and it refers to 'DEX Specifications' as 'DEXs'.
I did not attend the
meeting. Is this what was agreed?
I like the graphical
layout though (except for the 'uses' arrow pointing to 'Business Reference
Data' that has no source...).
Should I put it in the
DEXlib information pages (new name for the help section...) and in that way
prepare it for ballot?!
Maybe something for the
meeting this afternoon?
Regards,
Mats
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Från:
Rob Bodington [mailto:rob.bodington@eurostep.com]
Skickat: den 6 december 2005 08:00
Till: plcs-tog@lists.oasis-open.org
Kopia: Sean Barker
Ämne: [plcs-tog] RE: Documents
from the TOG meeting
Hi
I have had several
requests for a non Visio version of the diagram.
-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Bodington
[mailto:rob.bodington@eurostep.com]
Sent: 30 November 2005 14:12
To:
'plcs-tog@lists.oasis-open.org'
Cc: Sean Barker
(Sean.Barker@baesystems.com)
Subject: Documents from the TOG
meeting
Hi
Here are the diagrams/spreadsheets that we developed
in the TOG.
We went through all DEXs (apart from 5 and 9) and
identified which capabilities were required. We then looked at who as editing
it and whether they were funded. The spreadsheet reflects results of this.
We also reviewed the concept model and produced the
attached Visio diagram.
Regards
Rob
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