I have added some details to the definitions to clarify (or
confuse!)
DEX = Data Exchange
Specification = the definition in DEXlib
DEX file = electronic file
(P21/P28) with actual instance data conforming to
(complete or sections of) a DEX
Data Exchange Set = a
term grouping all PLCS entities and attributes identified by a
DEX
Do we also have any agreement on the business side of the
equation? Some called it just a "DEX Business
Specification".
To me the DBS is a specification describing the terms and
business concepts of the domain which are then defined using the PLCS entities
according to the DEX referenced.
Regards,
Tim
From: Chris Kreiler
[mailto:kreilerc@mantech-wva.com] Sent: 16 December 2005
08:54 To: mats.nilsson@fmv.se;
plcs-tog@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: RE: [plcs-tog] RE: Documents
from the TOG meeting
This offers the best
compromise for describing what we are building. I vote
yes!
From:
mats.nilsson@fmv.se [mailto:mats.nilsson@fmv.se] Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 7:38
AM To:
plcs-tog@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: VB: [plcs-tog] RE: Documents from
the TOG meeting
Nigel and I has reached a
consensus.
DEX = Data Exchange
Specification = the definition in DEXlib
DEX file = electronic
file with actual data conforming to (complete or sections of) a
DEX
Data Exchange Set = a
term grouping all PLCS entities and attributes identified by a
DEX
Regards, Mats - - - - - - - - - - -
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mats Nilsson,
FMV
Från:
Nigel Newling [mailto:nfn@lsc.co.uk] Skickat: den 16 december 2005
12:40 Till: Nilsson, Mats
maxnn Ämne: RE: [plcs-tog] RE:
Documents from the TOG meeting
Now put it to the
wider audience and stand back!
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mats.nilsson@fmv.se [mailto:mats.nilsson@fmv.se] Sent: 16 December 2005 10:54 To: nfn@lsc.co.uk Subject: SV: [plcs-tog] RE: Documents
from the TOG meeting
Summary:
DEX = Data Exchange Specification
= the definition in DEXlib
DEX file = electronic file with
actual data conforming to (complete or sections of) a
DEX
Data Exchange Set = a term
grouping all PLCS entities and attributes identified by a
DEX
Regards, Mats - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
- - - - - - - - - - - - Mats Nilsson, FMV
Från:
Nigel Newling [mailto:nfn@lsc.co.uk] Skickat: den 15 december 2005
13:56 Till: Nilsson, Mats
maxnn Ämne: RE: [plcs-tog]
RE: Documents from the TOG meeting
The Information
displayed, following the selection of a DEX through the menu in
DEXLib, is the DEX 'specification'. The entities and attributes
identified in that specification comprise the DEX data
'set'
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mats.nilsson@fmv.se [mailto:mats.nilsson@fmv.se] Sent: 15 December 2005
09:50 To:
nfn@lsc.co.uk Subject: SV:
[plcs-tog] RE: Documents from the TOG meeting
Set or
Specification or both?
Howard did not
specify...
Från: Nigel Newling
[mailto:nfn@lsc.co.uk] Skickat: den 15 december 2005
09:51 Till:
plcs-tog@lists.oasis-open.org Ämne: RE: [plcs-tog] RE: Documents from
the TOG meeting
The term
'Set' was introduced when we were discussing the scope of 'data
set' that should be defined by the DEX specification. Howard's
contribution has my vote - and we should not shy away from CCs
either!
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Howard (UK) [mailto:howard.mason@baesystems.com] Sent: 14 December 2005
17:43 To:
mats.nilsson@fmv.se; kreilerc@mantech-wva.com; ils-de@a.dii.mod.uk;
rob.bodington@eurostep.com Cc:
plcs-tog@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: RE: [plcs-tog] RE: Documents
from the TOG meeting
At the risk of
being contentious, we tend to refer to a STEP AP and its conformance
classes. Without wishing to equate a PLCS DEX with a STEP
conformance class in detail, they are at the same level.
A conformance
class is a specification, and individual conforming blocks of data are
files.
Also we never
defined the silent "s" in DEX.
This kind of
suggests to me that DEX is the specification (Data EXchange (set or
specification)) and an instance is a DEX(-compliant)
file.
Howard
Mason
From:
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Chris,
My opinion is
that we still are at a point where terminology could be changed, if it is
useful and brings clarity to our work. Still, more than 99.99998%* of
the worlds population is unaware of PLCS and its terminology (poor
creatures...) ;o)
*) Calculated as;
1 000 / 6 300 000 000
Från: Chris Kreiler
[mailto:kreilerc@mantech-wva.com] Skickat: den 14 december 2005
13:57 Till: 'Gibson,
Martin'; Nilsson, Mats maxnn; rob.bodington@eurostep.com Kopia:
plcs-tog@lists.oasis-open.org Ämne: RE: [plcs-tog] RE: Documents
from the TOG meeting
Martin and
Mats,
Although it is a
minor point, I think we should be careful about changing the terminology
at this point due to the recognition that Data Exchange Set enjoys among
most of our customers.
Just my 2 cents
before the snow storm here in West Virginia.
From:
Gibson, Martin [mailto:ils-de@a.dii.mod.uk] Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005
3:13 AM To:
'mats.nilsson@fmv.se'; rob.bodington@eurostep.com Cc:
plcs-tog@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: RE: [plcs-tog] RE: Documents
from the TOG meeting
My view is that
it should be 'Data Exchange Specification'
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mats.nilsson@fmv.se [mailto:mats.nilsson@fmv.se] Sent: 14 December 2005
08:05 To:
ils-de@a.dii.mod.uk; rob.bodington@eurostep.com Cc:
plcs-tog@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: SV: [plcs-tog] RE:
Documents from the TOG meeting
Another
question: If I want to use the non-abbreviated term for 'DEX'. Should I
then pronounce/write it "Data exchange set" (which for my
swedish ears much sounds like file (file = a 'set' of data)) or
"Data exchange specification"?
Regards -
Mats
Martin,
Thanks for the
clarification!
I'm ok with
that. As long as everyone understands eachother! 'DEX' and 'DEX file' it
is!
Regards,
Mats - - - - - - -
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mats Nilsson,
FMV
Från: Gibson, Martin
[mailto:ils-de@a.dii.mod.uk] Skickat: den 7 december 2005
11:33 Till: Nilsson,
Mats maxnn Ämne: RE:
[plcs-tog] RE: Documents from the TOG meeting
Hope you
enjoyed yesterday's telecon/meeting (as much as I
did!).
I'm not sure
it was mentioned within the telecon, but , you are correct in your guess
that the ToG Agreed that the term 'DEX' is synonymous with the term 'DEX
Specification' and that a 'DEX file' is indeed that file which would be
exchanged as part of a PLCS implementation.
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mats.nilsson@fmv.se [mailto:mats.nilsson@fmv.se] Sent: 06 December 2005
08:13 To:
rob.bodington@eurostep.com; plcs-tog@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: SV: [plcs-tog] RE:
Documents from the TOG meeting
All,
Is the visio
diagram a result of the review of the concept model
draft?
It lacks some of the terms in the concept model
(DEX file,
Requirements, etc.) and it refers to 'DEX Specifications' as 'DEXs'.
I did not
attend the meeting. Is this what was agreed?
I like the
graphical layout though (except for the 'uses' arrow pointing to
'Business Reference Data' that has no
source...).
Should I put
it in the DEXlib information pages (new name for the help section...)
and in that way prepare it for ballot?!
Maybe
something for the meeting this afternoon?
Regards,
Mats - - - - - -
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mats Nilsson, FMV
Från: Rob Bodington
[mailto:rob.bodington@eurostep.com] Skickat: den 6 december 2005
08:00 Till:
plcs-tog@lists.oasis-open.org Kopia: Sean Barker Ämne: [plcs-tog] RE: Documents
from the TOG meeting
Hi
I have had
several requests for a non Visio version of the
diagram.
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Rob Bodington [mailto:rob.bodington@eurostep.com] Sent: 30 November 2005
14:12 To:
'plcs-tog@lists.oasis-open.org' Cc: Sean Barker
(Sean.Barker@baesystems.com) Subject: Documents from the TOG
meeting
Hi
Here are the
diagrams/spreadsheets that we developed in the TOG.
We went through all DEXs
(apart from 5 and 9) and identified which capabilities were required.
We then looked at who as editing it and whether they were funded. The
spreadsheet reflects results of this.
We also reviewed the
concept model and produced the attached Visio
diagram.
Regards
Rob
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