RE: [provision] Questions...

[Tony Gullotta <TGullotta@access360.com>]

Title: RE: [provision] Questions...

A word of caution. If you say "service" provisioning, it could be assumed that you mean provisioning more than identities, but all kinds of service related items. For example, some people view provisioning a "service" performing operations like creating a namespace, some groups, and some ACI's, as well as users on a system. In other words, the to provisioning a "service" is like configuring the service completely. Not that I have a problem with this, but we have to be clear as to whether this is what our focus is. From previous emails, it seemed like folkes were more focused on identities. Maybe Identity Provisioning ...

 

Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: Hal Lockhart [mailto:hal.lockhart@entegrity.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 8:21 AM
To: 'Bill Games'; provision@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [provision] Questions...

Yes, now that you mention it, Service Provisioning seems closer to my notion of what this TC is intending to address.

Hal

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Games [mailto:bgames@sig.net]
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 11:17 AM
> To: provision@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: RE: [provision] Questions...
>
>
> Does anyone perceive a difference between these acronyms?
>       SPML - Service Provisioning ML
>       PSML - Provisioning Services ML
>
> The first suggests a focus on describing the intrinsic attributes of a
> service that is -to be- provisioned by an SPML compatible provisioning
> engine or controller.  In other words, what is the standard
> structure of
> the messages sent to and from an SPML compatible provisioning engine
> that result in the intended service being provisioned on the target
> service delivery platform?
>
> The second suggests there is a list of generic, universal provisioning
> services.  In this case, I read 'provisioning' as an
> adjective.  I'm not
> sure that gets us anything.  BTW, English grammar is not my specialty.
>
>
> Any other thoughts...
>
> Bill Games
> Signet Web Partners
> (512) 327-9346
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Darran Rolls [mailto:Darran.Rolls@waveset.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 8:23 PM
> To: provision@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: RE: [provision] Questions...
>
>
> Of course...
>
> If there are other suggestions send them to the list and I'll set up a
> quick Evite pole....
>
> -djr
>  
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Darran Rolls
> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 8:12 PM
> To: 'Truitt, Edward D. (OSED)'; 'provision@lists.oasis-open.org'
> Subject: RE: [provision] Questions...
>
> At Hal's request I have added an agenda item for the next meeting to
> ratify the Provisioning Services Markup Language (PSML) as
> the umbrella
> name for the specification....
>
> Darran Rolls
> Waveset Technologies
> MSIM  drolls_waveset@hotmail.com
> AIM    drollswaveset
> YIM    drolls_waveset
> http://www.waveset.com/
> drolls@waveset.com
>  
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Truitt, Edward D. (OSED) [mailto:OSED@chevrontexaco.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 5:39 PM
> To: 'provision@lists.oasis-open.org'
> Subject: RE: [provision] Questions...
>
> That sounds good to me.  In fact, that allows us to use "Provisioning
> Services" instead of simply "Provisioning".
>
> -Ed Truitt
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Darran Rolls [mailto:Darran.Rolls@waveset.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 4:37 PM
> To: Winston Bumpus; provision@lists.oasis-open.org;
> MChanliau@netegrity.com
> Subject: RE: [provision] Questions...
>
>
> Re 1.  I guess the provisioning "framework" would be called PSML - at
> least
> that was the agreed name before November 12th.  Is everyone
> still happy
> with
> that?
>
> Darran Rolls
> Waveset Technologies
> MSIM  drolls_waveset@hotmail.com
> AIM    drollswaveset
> YIM    drolls_waveset
> http://www.waveset.com/
> drolls@waveset.com
>  
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Winston Bumpus [mailto:WBUMPUS@novell.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 1:29 PM
> To: provision@lists.oasis-open.org; MChanliau@netegrity.com
> Subject: Re: [provision] Questions...
>
> Marc,
>
> As for the DSML relevance,  there is a presumption at this point that
> some
> of the information will be maintained in a directory, the use
> of new XML
> protocols for directory interaction may be relevant to this activity.
>
> Winston
>
> >>> "Chanliau, Marc" <MChanliau@netegrity.com> 11/28/01 11:07AM >>>
> I'm new to this TC (I'm a SAML TC member), so please bear
> with my basic
> questions:
>
> (1) Is there a name for the framework defined by the PSTC
> (for example,
> the
> Security Services TC (SSTC) defines the SAML framework)?
> (2) In the document called "An Introduction to the
> Provisioning Services
> Technical Committee," there's a nice representation of the other
> standards
> supported. While I can easily understand the relevance of SOAP
> (messaging),
> SAML (authN and attributes), and XML sig and encryption, I fail to see
> the
> relevance of DSML. Can you explain?
>
> 
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