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Subject: Re: [provision] Questions...


Ohhh, it could be pronounced "SPAM-L" ;-)

Cheers,

Chris

But I don't *like* spam!

Keith Cosgrove wrote:

> Agree - Services Provisioning ML
> 
> Also - With a quick search on Google of SPML there appears to be only one
> contention "Server Parsed ML"
> http://foldoc.doc.ic.ac.uk/foldoc/foldoc.cgi?SPML
> 
> However, this is dated 1996-09-29, and probably isnt any real concern at
> all.
> 
> KC
> keith@cp.net
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gavenraj Sodhi [mailto:gsodhi1@home.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 1:10 PM
> To: provision@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: RE: [provision] Questions...
> 
> 
> Shouldn't it be Services Provisioning ML?  As their may exist one or
> more services being provisioned within an instance.
> 
> -Gavenraj
> gsodhi1@home.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Darran Rolls [mailto:Darran.Rolls@waveset.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 12:29 PM
> To: Bill Games; provision@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: RE: [provision] Questions...
> 
> I think Don Bowens revelations on the possible abuse of the acronym for
> the PSTC specification has certainly convinced me personally that SPML
> is a better option.  Are there any other suggestions before we put this
> to a vote?
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------
> Darran Rolls                      http://www.waveset.com
> Waveset Technologies Inc          drolls@waveset.com 
> (512) 657 8360                    PGP  0x8AC67C6F   
> --------------------------------------------------------      
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Games [mailto:bgames@sig.net] 
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 10:17 AM
> To: provision@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: RE: [provision] Questions...
> 
> Does anyone perceive a difference between these acronyms?
> 	SPML - Service Provisioning ML
> 	PSML - Provisioning Services ML
> 
> The first suggests a focus on describing the intrinsic attributes of a
> service that is -to be- provisioned by an SPML compatible provisioning
> engine or controller.  In other words, what is the standard structure of
> the messages sent to and from an SPML compatible provisioning engine
> that result in the intended service being provisioned on the target
> service delivery platform? 
> 
> The second suggests there is a list of generic, universal provisioning
> services.  In this case, I read 'provisioning' as an adjective.  I'm not
> sure that gets us anything.  BTW, English grammar is not my specialty.
> 
> 
> Any other thoughts...
> 
> Bill Games
> Signet Web Partners
> (512) 327-9346
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Darran Rolls [mailto:Darran.Rolls@waveset.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 8:23 PM
> To: provision@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: RE: [provision] Questions...
> 
> 
> Of course...
> 
> If there are other suggestions send them to the list and I'll set up a
> quick Evite pole....
> 
> -djr
>   
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Darran Rolls 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 8:12 PM
> To: 'Truitt, Edward D. (OSED)'; 'provision@lists.oasis-open.org'
> Subject: RE: [provision] Questions...
> 
> At Hal's request I have added an agenda item for the next meeting to
> ratify the Provisioning Services Markup Language (PSML) as the umbrella
> name for the specification....
> 
> Darran Rolls 
> Waveset Technologies 
> MSIM  drolls_waveset@hotmail.com 
> AIM    drollswaveset 
> YIM    drolls_waveset 
> http://www.waveset.com/ 
> drolls@waveset.com 
>   
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Truitt, Edward D. (OSED) [mailto:OSED@chevrontexaco.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 5:39 PM
> To: 'provision@lists.oasis-open.org'
> Subject: RE: [provision] Questions...
> 
> That sounds good to me.  In fact, that allows us to use "Provisioning
> Services" instead of simply "Provisioning".
> 
> -Ed Truitt
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Darran Rolls [mailto:Darran.Rolls@waveset.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 4:37 PM
> To: Winston Bumpus; provision@lists.oasis-open.org;
> MChanliau@netegrity.com
> Subject: RE: [provision] Questions...
> 
> 
> Re 1.  I guess the provisioning "framework" would be called PSML - at
> least
> that was the agreed name before November 12th.  Is everyone still happy
> with
> that?
> 
> Darran Rolls 
> Waveset Technologies 
> MSIM  drolls_waveset@hotmail.com 
> AIM    drollswaveset 
> YIM    drolls_waveset 
> http://www.waveset.com/ 
> drolls@waveset.com 
>   
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Winston Bumpus [mailto:WBUMPUS@novell.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 1:29 PM
> To: provision@lists.oasis-open.org; MChanliau@netegrity.com
> Subject: Re: [provision] Questions...
> 
> Marc,
> 
> As for the DSML relevance,  there is a presumption at this point that
> some
> of the information will be maintained in a directory, the use of new XML
> protocols for directory interaction may be relevant to this activity.
> 
> Winston
> 
> 
>>>>"Chanliau, Marc" <MChanliau@netegrity.com> 11/28/01 11:07AM >>>
>>>>
> I'm new to this TC (I'm a SAML TC member), so please bear with my basic
> questions:
> 
> (1) Is there a name for the framework defined by the PSTC (for example,
> the
> Security Services TC (SSTC) defines the SAML framework)?
> (2) In the document called "An Introduction to the Provisioning Services
> Technical Committee," there's a nice representation of the other
> standards
> supported. While I can easily understand the relevance of SOAP
> (messaging),
> SAML (authN and attributes), and XML sig and encryption, I fail to see
> the
> relevance of DSML. Can you explain?
> 
>  
> 
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