RE: [provision] Agenda for r5/5/03 PSTC con-call

["Cohen, Doron" <Doron_Cohen@bmc.com>]

Lets not limit ourselves to look at this as a batch replacement. It is not
the main issue, I believe . I would focus on the ability of the SPML server
(PSP in most cases) to break down a request of a client (RA , probably) to
multiple sub requests and allow the RA to track each of those . One example
can be the provisioning of a new class of students (the year of 2004) as a
single request coming from the RA to the PSP which is broken down by the PSP
to dozens of requests, each sub-request being traceable separately for each
student .

All it takes, in terms of the protocol, is to allow multiple IDs to be
optionally returned for a single request. I do not believe we loose anything
from adding this option, but there might be some very nice benefits to PSP
implementations.

Doron

-----Original Message-----
From: Darran Rolls [mailto:Darran.Rolls@waveset.com] 
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 1:23 AM
To: Cohen, Doron; Jeff Bohren
Cc: Elron, Rami; provision@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [provision] Agenda for r5/5/03 PSTC con-call


Could someone describe the functional benefit this has over using a batch?
He have to be cautious to separate nice-to from have-to as we close off the
1.0 release...

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cohen, Doron [mailto:Doron_Cohen@bmc.com]
> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 9:31 AM
> To: Jeff Bohren
> Cc: Elron, Rami; provision@lists.oasis-open.org; Darran Rolls
> Subject: RE: [provision] Agenda for r5/5/03 PSTC con-call
> 
> I believe the new angle would be the ability to handle the scenario
when
> one
> provisioning request is optionally broken by the PSP to multiple
separate
> sub -requests and allow the RA to actually monitor each of the
sub-request
> separately. I guess the same thing can be used in conjunction for PSP 
> ability to interact with a PST. The only change that this would 
> require is for the PSP (or PST) to
return
> multiple IDs instead of exactly one.
> 
> Doron
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Bohren [mailto:jbohren@opennetwork.com]
> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 3:51 PM
> To: Cohen, Doron; Darran Rolls
> Cc: Elron, Rami; provision@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: RE: [provision] Agenda for r5/5/03 PSTC con-call
> 
> 
> 
> This is an interesting idea. It does not, however, provide any more 
> functionality than what is provided by batch requests, or multiple
single
> requests.
> 
> To me a more interesting approach would be to support this not by 
> explicitly identifying multiple targets by their identifiers, but 
> implicitly identifying multiple targets using a search query (i.e. 
> search base
and
> filter). This approach would provide new functionality.
> 
> 
> Jeff Bohren
> Product Architect
> OpenNetwork Technologies, Inc
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cohen, Doron [mailto:Doron_Cohen@bmc.com]
> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 2:14 AM
> To: Darran Rolls
> Cc: Elron, Rami; provision@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: RE: [provision] Agenda for r5/5/03 PSTC con-call
> 
> Darran,
> 
> Can we discuss also the attached proposal from Rami
> 
> Doron
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Darran Rolls [mailto:Darran.Rolls@waveset.com]
> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 6:20 AM
> To: provision@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: [provision] Agenda for r5/5/03 PSTC con-call
> 
> 
> CONFERENCE ID
> =============
> Dial-in Number: 888-742-8686
> Conference ID: 5250215
> Date: 5/05/2003
> Time 10 AM CST
> 
> Proposed Agenda
> ===============
> 1 - 10:05 Order and role-call
> -----------------------------
> Roll-call
> 
> 2 - 10:07 Accept meeting minutes from 4/28/2003
> -----------------------------------------------
> Minutes available at [1]
> 
> 3 - 10:08 WSDM Activity
> ----------------------
> DR report on WSDM activity
> 
> 4 - 10:17 Spec Update
> ---------------------
> General report
> 
> 5 - 10:22 PSTC Roadmap
> ----------------------
> As we approach delivery of the basic 1.0 spec we need to discuss the 
> roadmap moving forward and the need to communicate this with others... 
> food
for
> thought...
> 
> 5 - 10:25 Interop planning
> -------------------------
> - Glue party dates
> 	- June 11-13 has the majority at close. Comments?
> - Glue party location
> 	- I have the go-ahead to hold it at our training facility in NW 
> Austin.  Comments/alternatives...
> - Update on participation
> - Gavenraj: marketing contacts
> 	- One-sheet development
> 	- Press and analysts meetings
> - Scenario update (see 2)
> 	- Business scenario
> 	- STANDARD schema
> - Draft Interop implementation overview delivery & review dates
> 
> 6 - ??:?? Other business
> ------------------------
> As required.
> 
> 7 - 11:00 Motion to Adjourn
> ---------------------
> To reconvene 5/12/2003.
> 
> [1] http://www.oasis- 
> open.org/apps/org/workgroup/provision/download.php/1781
> /pstc-minutes-04282003.html
> [2] http://www.oasis- 
> open.org/apps/org/workgroup/provision/download.php/1902
> /Scenario1_gif_1.gif
> 
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> Waveset Technologies Inc          drolls@waveset.com
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