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Subject: Re: Proposal for supporting Service and ServiceBinding
---------------------- Forwarded by Scott Hinkelman/Austin/IBM on 09/05/2001 10:54 AM --------------------------- Scott Hinkelman 09/05/2001 07:47 AM To: "Patil, Sanjay" <SPatil@iona.com> cc: Dan Chang/Santa Teresa/IBM@IBMUS, "'regrep-raws@lists.oasis-open.org'" <regrep-raws@lists.oasis-open.org> From: Scott Hinkelman/Austin/IBM@IBMUS Subject: Re: Proposal for supporting Service and ServiceBinding (Document link: Scott Hinkelman) Sanjay, Your proposal very closely matches similar functionality centered directly around that of UDDI, and I share Dan's concern. With your proposal, the raws subgroup is operating in a space where other efforts have made significant contribution and increasing traction, only by great expense of involved companies. In order to address some of what is in your proposal, for businesses to find services, on the larger picture of global eBusiness we must take into account the global topology structure. UDDI certainly is covering the global position for bussinesses find services, etc, and nobody should underestimate what it takes to provide and initially implement such a global business directory, taking into account distribution/replication, single fail point, etc. My position is that at this point, it will be a very large undertaking for anyone or company to replicate that, be it using a UDDI reg or ebXML reg, and the greatest possiblity of success for a gloabl Business registry for services is in UDDI. This might sound harsh, and not directly pointed at you, but any attempt to overlay UDDI's core functionality will likely have minimal success at this point. I believe now as things have moved forward that one succesful positioning otion for ebXML registry is to NOT be a business registry and have no notion of Organization. I would like to understand more on your thoughts on topology - are you thinking would there be many ebXML registries with your proposed UDDI-like function, or a global image like the UDDI-cloud? Scott Hinkelman, Senior Software Engineer XML Industry Enablement IBM e-business Standards Strategy 512-823-8097 (TL 793-8097) (Cell: 512-940-0519) srh@us.ibm.com, Fax: 512-838-1074 From: Dan Chang on 09/04/2001 03:58 PM To: "Patil, Sanjay" <SPatil@iona.com> cc: Scott Hinkelman/Austin/IBM@IBMUS, "'regrep-raws@lists.oasis-open.org'" <regrep-raws@lists.oasis-open.org> From: Dan Chang/Santa Teresa/IBM@IBMUS Subject: Re: Proposal for supporting Service and ServiceBinding (Document link: Scott Hinkelman) Sanjay, I am concerned that in doing so we will explicitly overlap and repeat what has been done in UDDI. I believe we ought to first resolve the issue on positioning OASIS/ebXML Registry with UDDI, as suggested by Scott. Regards, Dan Metadata Management Technology and Standard IBM DBTI for e-Business Notes: Dan Chang/Santa Teresa/IBM@IBMUS Internet: dtchang@us.ibm.com VM: IBMUSM50(DTCHANG) Phone: (408)-463-2319 "Patil, Sanjay" To: "'regrep-raws@lists.oasis-open.org'" <SPatil@iona.c <regrep-raws@lists.oasis-open.org> om> cc: Subject: Proposal for supporting Service and ServiceBinding 09/04/01 03:05 PM Here is a proposal for supporting Service and ServiceBinding objects as first class object in the RIM. <<SupportServiceAndServiceBinding.doc>> In order to be readily useful, a registry needs to have inherent support for the commonly used business documents. Business Service interface and the technical binding of these Business Service interfaces seem to be falling in such a category. 1. Providing inherent support for common business documents. 2. Functionally complete in comparison with other Registry Standards Please review the proposal and let us start discussing it over the mail list. thanks, Sanjay Patil ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ IONA Total Business Integration (TM) Phone: 408 350 9619 http://www.iona.com
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