Fw: Global identifiers

["David RR Webber" <david@drrw.info>]

Team,

This came up on the XML/edi list.

I believe this is a separate use case - the noun one we have
right now just deals with element semantics.

Codelists is one of those perennial bugaboos - but notice
that 50% of content in a traditional business transaction
is actually carried in code values - and as can be seen from
the currency code example - there are descreet needs
in the use case around versioning and subsetting.

I believe we have the tools to put this together - but as
ever its a question of defining the actual mechanics of
doing this in a consistent way using those tools.

And as the message below shows - we have some
nice interest in this already - and potential pilot
projects we can work on.

Notice the USGov XMLWG already has one
proposal for handling codelists using schema.  That
was heavily dependent on XSD techniques though -
so I'm thinking something combining OWL and simple
XML is potentially more elegant and flexible...

Thoughts?

Thanks, DW

p.s. Ed - how about submitting a use case for us - and
      someone from GoC joining the SC work - don't
      worry about the work involved - Ottawa are not
      going to win the Stanley Cup this year anyway, eh?!?

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To: "David Webber" <david@drrw.info>
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 5:43 PM
Subject: RE: Global identifiers




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Date: 4/2/2004  2:54 PM

RE: RE: Global identifiers


Ed',

Good posting.

It definately seems that we are closing in on the
vision started in 1998 for XML/edi - of having Registry manage these
across a domain.

It might be worth adding an additional use case to the
OASIS Registry SCM work - to support codelist objects in XML
in the registry.

I know there's been various prior looks at that - but would be
good to have a consistent layout for these in XML in the Registry.

Thanks, DW.
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Hi Ken,

        Thanks for your note.  I apologize for entering the discussion at
this late stage but feel an urgent requirement to be more informed about
the work that is being undertaken on "code lists" within UBL.  This is a
very important aspect of information interchange and I wanted to ensure
that you were aware, and better still, had taken into consideration the
work within ISO SC 32 that Jake Knoppers is doing as the Canadian expert.
If I am not mistaken it is part of ISO 15944 but Jake can provide the
definitive reference on this item.

        I am also sharing this e-mail with colleagues in the Integrated
Justice Initiative as they have been developing code list for use within
their community.  Their work is ISO 11179 based as well and has been used
to populate an ebXML registry/repository with core data elements in English
and French as part of a GoC prototype implementation.  On the 30th of this
month we demonstrated prototype inter-operability with the registry by a
business process modeling application and an e-forms designer application.

        Developing and maintaining "code lists" using a mechanism such as
an ebXML registry/repository has significant implications for information
interchanges and electronic commerce.  Thus we might wish to undertake more
intensive collaboration within the standards context between ISO 32, UBL
and projects such as the CPSIN IJI initiative.  The Canadian Advisory Comm
on ISO/SC32 is meeting on April 7th and I am copying this message to the
chair, Bob Sunday for his information.

Ed Buchinski<



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