Re: Something of interest and possible conflict

[duane <duane@xmlglobal.com>]

All:

We became aware of this immediately upon the launch.  The ebXML
community was concerned about possible overlap with the ebXML
direction.  While it is still a concern,  the work done by UDDI does
fill in a void we had in ebXML, primarily in the area of the
pre-contract phase of discovery.  UDDI provides an excellent mechanism
for allowing a searchable interface for four basic types of query:

- find_service
- find_company
- find_tModel
- find_binding

UDDI can be very useful to locate an ebXML compliant company and then
locate an ebXML compliant binding (similar to a service interface).  THe
find_tModel query can also be useful for locating a specific business
process interface, perhaps an ebXML Business Process.

IMHO - there are some concerns about long term scalability although it
is likely they will be solved.  UDDI has a probelm of managing an
efficient means of Registry to Registry communication for updates on a
24 hour basis.  DNS accomplishes this (sort of) but the data in a UDDI
Registry is far more comprehensive than a simply IP address.  THe MS
engineers have taken an approach of replication.  THis is probably a
wiser approach than an update log and trying to perform multiple
"inserts" into an live system.  My feeling is they will accomplish it to
the satisfaction of business needs.

The OASIS Reg/Rep project should not be jeopardized in the least bit. 
Many people will simply not want MS having access to log files showing
who is requesting their business information.  There is also a group who
will favour an alternative approach and the open source type
architecture.

Both have their place.  Let's keep the OASIS and ebXML work on track. 
Both will benefit from each other's existence.

Duane Nickull
CTO, XML GLobal Technologies
CE, ebXML Architecture


> http://www.oasis-open.org/cover/uddi.html
> 
> You're probably correct about overlap, but I don't think it's
> something worth getting "concerned" about.  From my vantage point
> -- and one that could be very discouraging if I let it -- this
> happens several times a week.  Visionaries all have distinct
> ideas about how to carry out the vision; people who are most
> motivated by money will create competition because they want
> money in their pocket more than they want global interoperability.
> This is probably the norm, even though self-delusion prevents
> many from seeing the conflict in their so-noble agendas.
> 
> So I say:
> 
> Competitive agendas are inevitable, and the phrase itself (may) imply a
> notion of pissing on the shrubs to try to stake out territory.
> That's for canines. OASIS (regrep) has no prior claim on anything.
> Competition happens. Sometimes I don't like it (I won't "stoop" to tactics
> used by some to garner mindshare, even though I know that sensationalist
> headlines, provocative pedantry and dilettantism attracts the itching
> ears and eyeballs of the masses), but that's how the world works.
> What sells on (M)TV.
> 
> It's hard to know at this juncture whether SOAP or UDDI will even
> be recognizable terms in 24 months -- so fast is the world changing.
> Regrep should not be distracted by anything, though it may learn from
> everything.
> 
> My 2 cents.
> 
> -rc
> 
> On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, Walker, Jamie wrote:
> 
> > Something recently appeared on the horizon that caught my attention.
> >
> > The creation of an organization called UDDI (Universal Description, Discovery, and Integration)
> > (Web site at: http://www.uddi.org/ <http://www.uddi.org/> )
> >
> > And while I don't know enough about it yet to say for sure, I'm a little concerned that
> > it may be establishing itself as a competing agency to this body's work.
> >
> > If you have time, I'd be interested in hearing whether or not you think my concerns are justified or not.
> >
> > Jamie Walker
> > Sr. Systems Analyst / Intranet Strategist
> > Boeing Commercial Airplane IS Architecture
> > Everett, WA
> > The Boeing Company
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> > Seattle, Wa 98124-2207
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> > Personal: jamiewalker@yahoo.com <mailto:jamiewalker@yahoo.com>
> >
> >
> >