RE: [regrep] Result of Query Ballot

[Dan Chang <dtchang@us.ibm.com>]

Karl,

There is a difference. First, with the OMG process, there is a Voting
Members list and then there is a quorum calculation based on a
consistently-participating criterion. The quorum is recalculated
periodically and is almost always lower than half of the number of voting
members. Second, with the OMG process, each company has only one vote. I am
not arguing which process is better. I am just saying there is a
difference.

In any case, I agree with Scott and David. The vote count should have been
Invalid not Disapprove so that a re-vote can be taken. Otherwise, non-votes
are being counted as Disapprove, which is worse than what went on in
Florida a few moons ago.

Regards,  Dan

Metadata Management Technology and Standard
IBM DBTI for e-Business
Notes:     Dan Chang/Santa Teresa/IBM@IBMUS
Internet:  dtchang@us.ibm.com
VM:          IBMUSM50(DTCHANG)
Phone:    (408)-463-2319


                                                                                                            
                    "Karl F. Best"                                                                          
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Dan:

Under OASIS rules the voting membership of a TC are those people who are
consistently attending meetings and participating in votes. Half of
those people must vote in order for an election to be valid. So there's
really no difference between how we do it and OMG.

</karl>
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Karl F. Best
OASIS - Director, Technical Operations
978.667.5115 x206
karl.best@oasis-open.org  http://www.oasis-open.org


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Chang [mailto:dtchang@us.ibm.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 12:25 PM
> To: Lisa Carnahan
> Cc: regrep@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: Re: [regrep] Result of Query Ballot
>
>
>
> Lisa,
>
> I am very puzzled and disturbed by the process. Somehow not
> voting is being
> counted as disapprove. That is, nine people did not vote/care
> and therefore
> they have disapproved the Query proposal?!
>
> It will be totally wrong for V2 to be published with the
> existing Object
> Query Management chapter. The chapter is outdated and,
> therefore, wrong. If
> the Query proposal is not approved, V2 should be published
> with the chapter
> removed.
>
> I am new to the OASIS process, but I am familiar with the OMG
> process. With
> the OMG process, a quorum is established not as half of all
> voting members,
> but as half of all consistently-participating voting members, which
> protects active members and the process as a whole.
>
> Regards,  Dan
>
> Metadata Management Technology and Standard
> IBM DBTI for e-Business
> Notes:     Dan Chang/Santa Teresa/IBM@IBMUS
> Internet:  dtchang@us.ibm.com
> VM:          IBMUSM50(DTCHANG)
> Phone:    (408)-463-2319
>
>
>
>
>                     Lisa Carnahan
>
>                     <lisa.carnahan       To:
> regrep@lists.oasis-open.org
>                     @nist.gov>           cc:
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>                                          Subject:
> [regrep] Result of Query Ballot
>                     10/24/01 07:49
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>                     AM
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>
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> The Query Proposal is not approved because the number of TC
> members casting
>
> a ballot was not a simple majority of TC voting members.  We
> agreed as a TC
>
> that a simple majority must cast ballots for the vote to be valid.  We
> needed 9 ballots for the vote to be valid.  The results are
> as follows:
>
> Bruce Bargmeyer  - did not vote
> Kathryn Breininger - approve
> Dan Chang - approve
> Joe Chiusano - abstain
> Suresh Damodaran  -did not vote
> Anne Fischer - approve
> Sally Fuger - did not vote
> Len Gallagher - approve
> Jong Kim - did not vote
> Joel Munter - did not vote
> Farrukh Najmi - disapprove
> Sanjay Patil - did not vote
> Neal Smith -disapprove
> Nikola Stojanovic - did not vote
> Prasad Yendluri - did not vote
> Yutaka Yoshida - did not vote
>
> If I have incorrectly represented your action, please let me
> know ASAP.
>
> --lisa
>
>
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