Re: [regrep] RE: Latest version of normative specs and files included

[Farrukh Najmi <Farrukh.Najmi@Sun.COM>]

A relational schema defines a model that is the basis for a query syntax. One
can design a system that can use any query syntax
without mandating that the implementation use that technology. One can write an
SQL query processor on top of an OODB or an XML DB. The SQL queries would in
those cases need to be mapped to the underlying query syntax supported by the
persistence layer (SQL3, OQL, XML-QL, XPATH whatever). It is a goal of the ebXML
Registry RI to demonstrate this fact.

"Munter, Joel D" wrote:

> This is something that has bugged me for awhile now.  I guess that I just
> never asked the questions about this.  Please clarify the following:
>
> RS 1.08 Section 8.3, Lines 3210:3211
> Note that the use of a subset of SQL syntax for SQLQuery does not imply a
> requirement to use relational databases in a Registry implementation.
>
> and immediately following this in Section 8.3.1 Lines 3213:3215
> SQL Queries are defined based upon the query syntax in in Appendix 0 and a
> fixed relational schema defined in Appendix 0. The relational schema is an
> algorithmic binding to [ebRIM] as described in the following sections.
>
> How can you have a relational schema w/o a relational database?  Maybe I am
> just dense after a long vacation and a severe head cold.
>
> Joel
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Farrukh Najmi [mailto:Farrukh.Najmi@Sun.COM]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 6:22 PM
> To: Munter, Joel D
> Cc: 'Farrukh Najmi'; 'Oasis Registry TC'
> Subject: Re: [regrep] RE: Latest version of normative specs and files
> included
>
> Joel,
>
> This has been a normative part of the spec since the earliest days. Have you
> not
> seen it before.
> It is required for the SQL query feature which is a normative but optional
> part
> of the spec.
> It does not imply implemntation specificity. It defines the schema for the
> queries to operate against.
>
> "Munter, Joel D" wrote:
>
> > Do you really imply that we are to vote on implementation specific SQL;
> > e.g., database.sql and storedProcedures.sql?  I hope not.  This has no
> > business in the spec's.
> > Joel
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Farrukh Najmi [mailto:Farrukh.Najmi@Sun.COM]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 6:04 PM
> > To: Munter, Joel D
> > Cc: 'Oasis Registry TC'
> > Subject: Latest version of normative specs and files included
> >
> > Team,
> >
> > While I cannot comment on whether there is a vote in progress I can
> comment
> > on the version of files:
> >
> > Here are the latest version of files that we should be voting on:
> >
> > RS version 1.08
> >
> >  http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/regrep/200111/msg00088.html
> >
> > RIM version 1.12
> >
> >  http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/regrep/200111/msg00084.html
> >
> > XML Schemas:
> >
> > rim.xsd version 1.28
> >
> >
> http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/ebxmlrr/ebxmlrr-spec/misc/sch
> > ema/rim.xsd?rev=1.28&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup
> >
> > query.xsd version 1.16
> >
> >
> http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/ebxmlrr/ebxmlrr-spec/misc/sch
> > ema/query.xsd?rev=1.16&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup
> >
> > rs.xsd version 1.20
> >
> >
> http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/ebxmlrr/ebxmlrr-spec/misc/sch
> > ema/rs.xsd?rev=1.20&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup
> >
> > WSDL Files
> >
> > Registry.wsdl version 1.11
> >
> >
> http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/ebxmlrr/ebxmlrr-spec/misc/ser
> > vices/Registry.wsdl?rev=1.11&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup
> >
> > RegistrySOAPBinding.wsdl version 1.13
> >
> >
> http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/ebxmlrr/ebxmlrr-spec/misc/ser
> >
> vices/RegistrySOAPBinding.wsdl?rev=1.13&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup
> >
> > SQL Schema
> >
> > database.sql version 1.1
> >
> >
> http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/ebxmlrr/ebxmlrr-spec/misc/sql
> > /database.sql?rev=1.1&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup
> >
> > storedProcedures.sql version 1.1
> >
> >
> http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/ebxmlrr/ebxmlrr-spec/misc/sql
> > /storedProcedures.sql
> >
> > I am assuming that while we can vote on the above files that we will be
> > allowed to make focused bug fixes to them if needed until they are
> submitted
> > to OASIS.
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> > Farrukh
> >
> > "Munter, Joel D" wrote:
> >
> > > Lisa,
> > >
> > > Farrukh just posted a note that indicates that he believes that we are
> > > almost ready to cast votes.  With all of the comments and questions that
> > > have been posted recently, please clarify what files and what versions
> of
> > > those files that we are voting on.  Are these latest comments being
> dealt
> > > with prior to the voting?
> > >
> > >         RIM v1.12 (Fuger)?
> > >         RS v1.02 (Fisher) or v1.08 (Najmi)?
> > >         WSDL Files v.?
> > >         Schema Files v.?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Joel Munter
> > > Intel / Enterprise Solutions Lab
> > > joel.d.munter@intel.com
> > > (480) 552-3076
> > > (602) 790-0924 (cell)
> > >
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> Regards,
> Farrukh

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Farrukh

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