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Subject: RE: [regrep] FW: [chairs] relations with W3C


Thanks for your good comments - you are making me think some more:-)

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-----Original Message-----
From: David RR Webber - XMLGlobal [mailto:Gnosis_@compuserve.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 10:21 AM
To: Damodaran, Suresh
Cc: 'ebXML Regrep'; 'Breininger, Kathryn R'
Subject: RE: [regrep] FW: [chairs] relations with W3C


Please see my comments below.

Thanks, DW.
Message text written by "Damodaran, Suresh"
>1. For those W3C standards (and submissions) that are used in OASIS
efforts (e.g., XPath, XSL, SOAP, WSDL, XMLDSIG,... used in ebXML) it would
be useful to have
the relevant OASIS standards in the "official" review loop of the W3C
Since OASIS is a consumer of many of W3C standards, it would streamline and
the review process.

>>>>>>> Suresh - I'm not sure what you are after here?  Once the W3C has
a draft for review - then its up to people to post issues to the IG for
that WG, and
the W3C website has a comment submission page for that.  Beyond that - if
an OASIS WG had a formal issue that appeared to not being covered - ie it
is submitted - but then the W3C WG marks it for "no action" - then there
be some escalation process.  Is that what you are thinking?
Right now individual entities are commenting on W3C WG deliverables,
and I think there is value in "official" comments from an OASIS TC for
two reasons (1) the comments will be well discussed and evaluated prior
to sending so the other TC is assured of "quality" comments (2) The
TC/WG will be obliged to give such comments some good thought before "no
is posted. The escalation idea you are proposing is a good one, since we
are going to have a TAB in OASIS and W3C has TAB, activities etc. 
I am staying way from examples for now!

2. It would be helpful for W3C and OASIS review at least the e-Business
related activities and come to an understanding of the relationships so
this understanding
can be fed back to the W3C WGs and OASIS TCs. This will also help the
process mentioned in (1) above. An example of such related activities would
ebXML in OASIS and Web Services Activity in W3C [1].

>>>>>>>> A formal liaison team here between the W3C TAG and OASIS TAG
(which is just forming of course) would seem to me to cover this.
Possibly - that would be a good first step. A mutual endorsement
of activities/efforts would be a great next step.

3. A well documented clarification of IP policy differences of OASIS and
pertaining to different types of documents (submissions, specifications,
etc.)  will be helpful to
those implementing to these standards. 

>>>>>>>>>> Ouch!  Yes, much needed.  Unfortunately this seems to be a
moving target right now - depending on who you ask and what day of the
The W3C members have penned many megabytes of email on this topic.
Yep -- you can get an official statement from the W3C - but since this is 
written in lawyereze - who knows what it really means?   Let's hope that
OASIS can have a simpler clearer picture.

Do not hold your breath!!


No, I am not:-) 
I just hope some progress will be made in clarifying the issues for 
OASIS members  *at least* in using W3C standards and submissions.
We all suffer from this - the very success of OASIS/W3C efforts depends on

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