RE: [regrep] Booz Allen Hamilton paper online

["Patil, Sanjaykumar" <sanjay.patil@iona.com>]

I think the article implicitly acknowledges your observation, as the very first item under the "Interoperability Between Registries" in the article is titled :- "Using UDDI to find ebXML Registry/Repository".

In addition, the article is also bringing forth the "possibility" (aptly under  a section - "Additional Possibilities") that an ebXML registry can be used for discovering a UDDI Registry. I do not think it is very confusing to think of this possibility. Imagine a scenario where there are just so many publicly maintained and ubiquitous UDDI Registries out there that an organization may have to depend upon its internal ebXML Registry for browsing the many and possibly picking one amongst them. On the other hand, I think the reasons are clear about why the organization may be using ebXML Registry for its internal usage.

These are just my personal 2 cents. 

Sanjay Patil
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-----Original Message-----
From: Munter, Joel D [mailto:joel.d.munter@intel.com]
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 8:02 AM
To: Chiusano Joseph; kclee@ce.cnu.ac.kr
Cc: ebXML Regrep (E-mail)
Subject: RE: [regrep] Booz Allen Hamilton paper online


I guess that I am now a little confused.  As ebXML Registries (to-date)
have never been maintained and advertised as much and as ubiquitous as
the (public) UDDI Business Registry (i.e., UBR), I agree with the way
that Joe had it written originally.  I see the ability to discover ebXML
Registries by "browsing" through the UBR as much more common than the
discovery of UDDI Registries from within an ebXML Registry.

Joel Munter, Intel
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-----Original Message-----
From: Chiusano Joseph [mailto:chiusano_joseph@bah.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 6:55 AM
To: kclee@ce.cnu.ac.kr
Cc: ebXML Regrep (E-mail)
Subject: Re: [regrep] Booz Allen Hamilton paper online

K.C.,

Thank you so much for your very accurate comments, and for presenting
these ideas at the ebXML Korea Conference. Please see feedback below.

<Quote1>
In my opinion, the sentence, "There is also the possibility of
discovering an ebXML registry from within UDDI.", should be
written as "There is also the possibility of discovering a UDDI from
within an ebXML registry.".
</Quote1>

You are correct - that is a typo.

<Quote2>
"Additionally, there does not currently exist a standard mechanism for
querying both types of registries at an abstract
level - that is, in which information can be pulled from either a UDDI
registry or ebXML registry using the same query
mechanism on both types of registries.".
As far as I know, we can use the JAXR for querying both types of
registries with each query capability(of course, not the
same query mechanism). 
</Quote2>

I definitely should have been more specific about this. What I wanted to
say was that there does not currently exist an open standard
(programming language-agnostic) for doing this. I chose to not mention
JAXR because my intention was to be very high-level and not get into
specific APIs.  Thanks for point this out.

Kind Regards,
Joe
Kyu-Chul Lee wrote:
> 
> Hi Joe,
> 
> I enjoy reading your impressive paper, and I am going to present your
idea to the ebXML Korea community
> at the ebXML Korea Conference held on 30th April.
> 
> While I am reading the expanded Interoperability section, I am afraid
there may be some mistake in the first sentence of
> the 'Additional Possibilities' subsection.
> In my opinion, the sentence, "There is also the possibility of
discovering an ebXML registry from within UDDI.", should be
> written as "There is also the possibility of discovering a UDDI from
within an ebXML registry.".
> 
> And one more thing that I'd like to mention is about the last sentence
of the same subsection, i.e.
> "Additionally, there does not currently exist a standard mechanism for
querying both types of registries at an abstract level - that is, in
which information can be pulled from either a UDDI registry or ebXML
registry using the same query mechanism on both types of registries.".
> As far as I know, we can use the JAXR for querying both types of
registries with each query capability(of course, not the same query
mechanism).
> I think that introducing JAXR to the readers will be more informative.
> 
> Kind Regards,
> K.C.
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chiusano Joseph [mailto:chiusano_joseph@bah.com]
> Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2003 6:10 AM
> To: Breininger Kathryn R
> Cc: ebXML Regrep (E-mail)
> Subject: Re: [regrep] Booz Allen Hamilton paper online
> 
> Thanks Kathryn. I'd like to add a clarification that this is not
exactly
> the same paper that I sent to the listserv recently - it has been
> slightly expanded (at the request of the editor) in the
Interoperability
> section.
> 
> Joe
> 
> "Breininger, Kathryn R" wrote:
> >
> > Here is the link to the Booz Allen Hamilton paper Joe authored
http://www.webservices.org/index.php/article/articleview/984/1/24/ . (He
sent us the PDF version April 1st).
> >
> > Kathryn Breininger
> > CENTRAL Project Manager
> > Emerging Technologies
> > Boeing Library Services
> >
> > 425-965-0182 phone
> > 425-237-3491 fax
> > kathryn.r.breininger@boeing.com