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Subject: Re: [regrep] Does Registry need Business Analytics/Business IntelligenceCapabilities?
<Quote> Another potential issue may be that Registry operators can examine logs to determine who's CPP (or WSDL) has been examined the most, least and/or by which other users (if logged in and session information is logged). </Quote> Yes - and I put this under the category of "Reporting" rather than "Business Intelligence". I always consider BI to be a mechanism that (for example) would operate on (mine) a CRM database to make intelligent associations between data items and answer such questions as: "For users who purchased product A, what other products did they purchase in the X weeks following their purchase of product A?" or "What are the demographic characteristics of users who purchased products A, D, and G within an X-week time period?" I really don't see the need for registry users to perform queries of this intelligence level on audit logs for the registry. I would call the registry audit log queries simply "reporting". Joe Duane Nickull wrote: > > My take would echo Joe's earlier comment. Most Registry users would > likely constrain only metadata to the Registry, not instance data. > ebXML CPP, CPA or WSDL instance of course, violates this principle, > however it is generally felt that there would be no transactional > instances placed into a publicly accessible registry. > > This may change with privately used registries. I do know of a few > folks who have planned to use the Registry for instance data as well or > a combination (metadata for instances of forms generated only under > certain contexts). The logs could recall how many times a certain > Registry Object was called, but this information would be useless to > most unless it was combined with the caching algorythm of the > application(s) requesting the data. One application may cache the > registry object for 30 days while another may simply request a new copy > each time the relevant function call was made. > > Another potential issue may be that Registry operators can examine logs > to determine who's CPP (or WSDL) has been examined the most, least > and/or by which other users (if logged in and session information is > logged). IMHO, this may be a security loophole from a business standpoint. > > One final thought - with respect to CPP's/WSDL instances. Who decides > the algorythm to determine which order of presentation is applied when a > query that reveals multiple registry obejcts is made? Does that > algorythm get published? Will every company start entering their > Registry CPA's/WSDL's as "AAAAA1111111 Shoe company Ltd."? > > Duane Nickull > > -- > *************************************************** > Yellow Dragon Software - http://www.yellowdragonsoft.com > Web Services & ebXML Messaging / Registry Downloads > Project Team Lead - UN/CEFACT eBusiness Architecture > Phone: +1 (604) 738-1051 - Canada: Pacific Standard Time > Direct: +1 (604) 726-3329 > > > > Zachary Alexander wrote: > > >Joe, > > > >Metaphorically, BI works on the residue of business transactions. It > >deals with the micro-decisions that companies make everyday. Given those > >two conditions then we have two questions. Is there business residue > >that can be collected from the registry? If there is business residue > >(i.e., transaction logs), can the analysis of those logs lead to better > >micro-decisions. If there is the potential that the registry functions > >could be distributed throughout an organization, then there is a higher > >probability that the business residue (i.e., transaction logs) could be > >of interest in the decision making process. > > > >Zachary Alexander > >The IT Investment Architect > >ebTDesign LLC, (703) 283-4325 > >http://www.ebTDesign.com > >http://www.p2pspeaker.com > >http://www.p2peconomy.com > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Chiusano Joseph [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org] > >Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 5:36 PM > >To: Zachary Alexander > >Cc: email@example.com > >Subject: Re: [regrep] Does Registry need Business Analytics/Business > >Intelligence Capabilities? > > > >Since BI generally operates on data rather than metadata, my first > >reaction is to say that it would be out of scope of the registry. > >Others? > > > >Joe > > > > > >You may leave a Technical Committee at any time by visiting http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/regrep/members/leave_workgroup.php > > > > > > You may leave a Technical Committee at any time by visiting http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/regrep/members/leave_workgroup.php
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