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Subject: Re: [regrep] Format for our documents


Farrukh,

Actually, I want to make sure this isn't a debate at all :-)  I'm just 
putting an option out there.

-Matt

Farrukh Najmi wrote:

>
> Remember the VI Vs. Emacs wars? Editors can be a religious issue.
>
> Like you, I want to make sure this is a friendly debate and that we 
> dont get upset over little things.
>
>
> Matthew MacKenzie wrote:
>
>> The OpenOffice format will likely embed all of the style information 
>> leaving the XML as a bunch of goop.  But hey...we can open it in 
>> Notepad. 
>
>
> Nothing in open office is embedded or hidden - that is why it is 
> called *OPEN* Office. It is all XML, pure and simple.
>
>>
>>
>> DocBook is my suggestion, and I'll point out that many technical 
>> books are written in DocBook.  Those authors manage. 
>
>
> <joke>
> As my mother used to say when I used the justification "But my best 
> friend does X all the time":
>
>    If he jumps in the well should you jump in the well too? :-)
> </joke>
>
> Personally, I do not want to "manage". I want an editing tool that is 
> effortless and reliable and lets me focus on the task at hand.
>
>>
>>
>> I don't want to argue this, just please take my suggestion (or leave 
>> it).  The virtues of DocBook are well documented.  A well structured 
>> document source tree, as evidenced in Norm Walsh's Docbook: The 
>> Definitive Guide actually reduces document complexity. 
>
>
> Since Norm is my close colleague I will ask his opinion on the subject.
>
>>
>> -Matt
>>
>> Farrukh Najmi wrote:
>>
>>> Matthew MacKenzie wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think that you should use DocBook.  I hear it too is an OASIS 
>>>> spec :-)
>>>>
>>>> Relying on WYSIWYG for complex technical documents scares me a 
>>>> little bit, but that is just me.  
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> And not having a modern, state-of-the-art WYSIWYG editor for complex 
>>> documents scares the living day lights out of me. This to me is the 
>>> most important requirement out of the three I proposed.
>>>
>>>> Look at the W3C, what they are doing is working quite well, and 
>>>> they use an XML format. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> And Open Office uses an XML format. One that is the basis for the 
>>> Open Office Format TC and their future standard.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Matt
>>>>
>>>> Farrukh Najmi wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Changed subject title to protect the innocent...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Farrukh Najmi wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> BTW I like the idea of having HTML version of specs available 
>>>>>>> online. I propose we do this for our specs as well. Any objections?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Duane Nickull wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Docbook?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually all I was thinking is to save the document as HTML. This 
>>>>> is a cheap and mindless act.
>>>>>
>>>>> The current spec source in in Word. It has several problems due to 
>>>>> limitations in Word for large documents. Longer term I would like 
>>>>> to move away from Word. I was thinking of Open Office which is the 
>>>>> basis for the Open Office Format TC:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=office
>>>>>
>>>>> Important criterea for choice of formats are:
>>>>>
>>>>> -Open format (ideally XML)
>>>>>
>>>>> -WYSIWYG Editors that are useable and reliable
>>>>>
>>>>> -Ideally freely available software
>>>>>
>>>>> Open Office meets each of the above requirements. Software is 
>>>>> freely available from:
>>>>>
>>>>>    http://www.openoffice.org
>>>>>
>>>>> Also since it can open Word formats migration from Word to Open 
>>>>> Office would be relatively painless.
>>>>>
>>>>> What do people (and specialy Sally) think?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

-- 
Matthew MacKenzie
Yellow Dragon Software Corporation
http://www.yellowdragonsoft.com/
m: +1 506.869.0175





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