Re: FW: [regrep] Minutes from our telecon September 4, 2003

[Duane Nickull <duane@yellowdragonsoft.com>]

I specifially was very wary of this statement by UN/CEFACT

"Two distinct trends will help to solve the platform plurality problem. 
First, there is a consensus that of
the different technologies available for eCommerce development, 
companies should standardize on
either J2EE (Java 2 Enterprise Edition) or Microsoft.NET - or even both. 
Secondly, Web Services,
virtually removing the problem altogether since they are based on open 
standards - irrespective of
Microsoft or Java - they will be a uniting theme around the enterprise."

Perhaps this should present a more balanced approach.

IMO - XML is the data format that removes the dependency on platform. 
ebXML MS, SOAP (built on http, SMTP, FTP etc) and other messaging 
formats facilitate the transport between platforms too. HTML for display 
is agnostic to platform.

.NET is in no way a mechanism to acheive platform neutrality. This 
statement blatantly lies by leading a read to somehow extrapolate that 
.NET couldbe run on Linux. The fact that M$ sued someone who tried this 
doesn't project that image.

Feh!!!

Duane

Chiusano Joseph wrote:

>Not sure how related this is to this issue (if at all), but
>
>UN/CEFACTs Business Collaboration Framework (BCF) makes reference to
>UDDI (not ebXML Registry) in Figure 6 ("Web Services Standards
>Overview") of the attached document (sorry for attaching, I could not
>find a URL for this document). 
>
>An interesting aspect is that the document also refers (generically) to
>a "core component registry" (p.7), which cannot be accomplished with
>UDDI:
>
><Quote>
>The selection of BIEs, or the creation of BIEs when they cannot be found
>in the core component registry, makes use of the core component context
>categories and rules.
></Quote>
>
>Joe
>
>Duane Nickull wrote:
>  
>
>>Farrukh et al:
>>
>>After reading the slides, I must say that this is probably nothing more
>>than a typo.  The UDDI reference is under a column heading of "ebXML
>>Goals" and since no one has ever purported to migrate ebXML to a UDDI
>>directory, it mustbe a typo.
>>
>>Klaus - can you confirm? It is slide 11 in the middle box.
>>
>>I am more curious about the last box in that row.  What are WS-F and
>>WS-T doing there as the agent for discovery in Web Services ala TMG?
>>
>>Duane
>>
>>Farrukh Najmi wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Breininger, Kathryn R wrote:
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>Are there any issues we should ask Sally to take forward to the
>>>>UN/CEFACT Forum meetings in Seoul next week?
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>Yes please...
>>>
>>>a) how is it that in the slides being used during the Asia tour promoting
>>>BCF
>>>(http://webster.disa.org/cefact-groups/tmg/bcf-tour/Presentations/Session6/pages/slide1.html)
>>>
>>>on slide 11 have UDDI replacing Reg/Rep in the stack? Why?
>>>
>>>b) what is the process that led to this apparent decision? why is it
>>>being
>>>qualified as "ebXML Goal"? Who decided it, and by whose authority?
>>>
>>>I view this as an outrageous attempt to undermine the work of our TC.
>>>We should protest this loudly at the UN/CEFACT Forum meetings in Seoul
>>>next week.
>>>
>>>Thanks.
>>>
>>>      
>>>
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