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Subject: Re: [regrep] ebXML and Web Services: Is this a fair assessment?


Oops - I meant to say "Thanks David!!!" :)

David RR Webber wrote:
> 
> Joe,
> 
> Errr, no!
> 
> I'd say something along these lines:
> 
>  (1) The ebXML initiative began while Web Services was in its infancy;
>       therefore two models were developed around the foundation of
>       XML and SOAP messaging.  The ebXML approach is collaboration-centric
>       (CPA) while the web service model is point-services-centric (WSDL).
>       While this distinction continues today significant blurring has taken
> place
>       leading to the ability to deploy both technologies in tandem.
> 
>   (2) For example, the emerging OASIS Web Services Business Process
>    Execution Language (WS BPEL) is centered on the Web Services hierarchy
>    presented in WSDL (portType, operation, message, etc.) and networks of
>    interacting services, while the ebXML  Business Process Schema
> Specification (BPSS)
>    is centered on the concept of business process patterns, workflows and
> transactions between
>    business collaboration partners.  Therefore BPSS is suited to defining
> industry-wide patterns
>    for collaborations, while BPEL is suited to discreet point services that
> may be part of those
>    collaborations.
> 
>   (3) The ebXML Messaging Service (ebMS) specification, whose foundation is
> SOAP,
>         is now also being adapted to support WSDL interfacing as well.
> 
>   (4) Many of the ebXML specifications have also incorporated Web
>        Services mechanisms - one example is the inclusion of
>        a WSDL definitions for the SOAP interface to ebXML Registry.
> 
> Thanks, DW.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chiusano Joseph" <chiusano_joseph@bah.com>
> To: <regrep@lists.oasis-open.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 4:39 PM
> Subject: [regrep] ebXML and Web Services: Is this a fair assessment?
> 
> > All,
> >
> > I was not involved in ebXML until after May 2001 (although I monitered
> > various listservs prior to that), so I don't have as solid an
> > appreciation as I would like regarding ebXML and Web Services. Can
> > someone please tell me if the following is a fair assessment - my
> > intention is to be as accurate as possible, and not controversial (I've
> > numbered the points below for easy referral):
> >
> > (1) The ebXML initiative began before Web Services became prominent;
> > therefore there are many aspects of ebXML that do not utilize Web
> > Services to as full a potential as they may have otherwise.
> >
> > (2) For example, the emerging OASIS Web Services Business Process
> > Execution Language (WS BPEL) is centered on the Web Services hierarchy
> > presented in WSDL (portType, operation, message, etc.) while the ebXML
> > Business Process Schema Specification (BPSS) is centered on the concept
> > of "business documents".
> >
> > (3) An exception to this is the ebXML Messaging Service (ebMS)
> > specification, whose foundation is SOAP.
> >
> > (4) However, many of the ebXML specifications have incorporated Web
> > Services since their original version - one example is the inclusion of
> > a SOAP interface to ebXML Registry in its 2.0 version.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Joe
> 
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