Re: [regrep] ebXML and Web Services: Is this a fair assessment?

["David RR Webber" <david@drrw.info>]

Joe,

I'm not Duane's evil twin!  ; -)

DW
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chiusano Joseph" <chiusano_joseph@bah.com>
To: "David RR Webber" <david@drrw.info>
Cc: <regrep@lists.oasis-open.org>; "Farrukh Najmi" <farrukh.najmi@sun.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [regrep] ebXML and Web Services: Is this a fair assessment?


> Thanks Duane - that's much better!!!
>
> Joe
>
> David RR Webber wrote:
> >
> > Joe,
> >
> > Errr, no!
> >
> > I'd say something along these lines:
> >
> >  (1) The ebXML initiative began while Web Services was in its infancy;
> >       therefore two models were developed around the foundation of
> >       XML and SOAP messaging.  The ebXML approach is
collaboration-centric
> >       (CPA) while the web service model is point-services-centric
(WSDL).
> >       While this distinction continues today significant blurring has
taken
> > place
> >       leading to the ability to deploy both technologies in tandem.
> >
> >   (2) For example, the emerging OASIS Web Services Business Process
> >    Execution Language (WS BPEL) is centered on the Web Services
hierarchy
> >    presented in WSDL (portType, operation, message, etc.) and networks
of
> >    interacting services, while the ebXML  Business Process Schema
> > Specification (BPSS)
> >    is centered on the concept of business process patterns, workflows
and
> > transactions between
> >    business collaboration partners.  Therefore BPSS is suited to
defining
> > industry-wide patterns
> >    for collaborations, while BPEL is suited to discreet point services
that
> > may be part of those
> >    collaborations.
> >
> >   (3) The ebXML Messaging Service (ebMS) specification, whose foundation
is
> > SOAP,
> >         is now also being adapted to support WSDL interfacing as well.
> >
> >   (4) Many of the ebXML specifications have also incorporated Web
> >        Services mechanisms - one example is the inclusion of
> >        a WSDL definitions for the SOAP interface to ebXML Registry.
> >
> > Thanks, DW.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Chiusano Joseph" <chiusano_joseph@bah.com>
> > To: <regrep@lists.oasis-open.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 4:39 PM
> > Subject: [regrep] ebXML and Web Services: Is this a fair assessment?
> >
> > > All,
> > >
> > > I was not involved in ebXML until after May 2001 (although I monitered
> > > various listservs prior to that), so I don't have as solid an
> > > appreciation as I would like regarding ebXML and Web Services. Can
> > > someone please tell me if the following is a fair assessment - my
> > > intention is to be as accurate as possible, and not controversial
(I've
> > > numbered the points below for easy referral):
> > >
> > > (1) The ebXML initiative began before Web Services became prominent;
> > > therefore there are many aspects of ebXML that do not utilize Web
> > > Services to as full a potential as they may have otherwise.
> > >
> > > (2) For example, the emerging OASIS Web Services Business Process
> > > Execution Language (WS BPEL) is centered on the Web Services hierarchy
> > > presented in WSDL (portType, operation, message, etc.) while the ebXML
> > > Business Process Schema Specification (BPSS) is centered on the
concept
> > > of "business documents".
> > >
> > > (3) An exception to this is the ebXML Messaging Service (ebMS)
> > > specification, whose foundation is SOAP.
> > >
> > > (4) However, many of the ebXML specifications have incorporated Web
> > > Services since their original version - one example is the inclusion
of
> > > a SOAP interface to ebXML Registry in its 2.0 version.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Joe
> >
>
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