Re: [regrep] ebXML and Web Services: Is this a fair assessment?

["Chiusano Joseph" <chiusano_joseph@bah.com>]

Thanks David!

Duane Nickull wrote:
> 
> I think that was Davdi that wrote that, not me ;-)
> 
> Chiusano Joseph wrote:
> 
> >Thanks Duane - that's much better!!!
> >
> >Joe
> >
> >David RR Webber wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Joe,
> >>
> >>Errr, no!
> >>
> >>I'd say something along these lines:
> >>
> >> (1) The ebXML initiative began while Web Services was in its infancy;
> >>      therefore two models were developed around the foundation of
> >>      XML and SOAP messaging.  The ebXML approach is collaboration-centric
> >>      (CPA) while the web service model is point-services-centric (WSDL).
> >>      While this distinction continues today significant blurring has taken
> >>place
> >>      leading to the ability to deploy both technologies in tandem.
> >>
> >>  (2) For example, the emerging OASIS Web Services Business Process
> >>   Execution Language (WS BPEL) is centered on the Web Services hierarchy
> >>   presented in WSDL (portType, operation, message, etc.) and networks of
> >>   interacting services, while the ebXML  Business Process Schema
> >>Specification (BPSS)
> >>   is centered on the concept of business process patterns, workflows and
> >>transactions between
> >>   business collaboration partners.  Therefore BPSS is suited to defining
> >>industry-wide patterns
> >>   for collaborations, while BPEL is suited to discreet point services that
> >>may be part of those
> >>   collaborations.
> >>
> >>  (3) The ebXML Messaging Service (ebMS) specification, whose foundation is
> >>SOAP,
> >>        is now also being adapted to support WSDL interfacing as well.
> >>
> >>  (4) Many of the ebXML specifications have also incorporated Web
> >>       Services mechanisms - one example is the inclusion of
> >>       a WSDL definitions for the SOAP interface to ebXML Registry.
> >>
> >>Thanks, DW.
> >>
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: "Chiusano Joseph" <chiusano_joseph@bah.com>
> >>To: <regrep@lists.oasis-open.org>
> >>Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 4:39 PM
> >>Subject: [regrep] ebXML and Web Services: Is this a fair assessment?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>All,
> >>>
> >>>I was not involved in ebXML until after May 2001 (although I monitered
> >>>various listservs prior to that), so I don't have as solid an
> >>>appreciation as I would like regarding ebXML and Web Services. Can
> >>>someone please tell me if the following is a fair assessment - my
> >>>intention is to be as accurate as possible, and not controversial (I've
> >>>numbered the points below for easy referral):
> >>>
> >>>(1) The ebXML initiative began before Web Services became prominent;
> >>>therefore there are many aspects of ebXML that do not utilize Web
> >>>Services to as full a potential as they may have otherwise.
> >>>
> >>>(2) For example, the emerging OASIS Web Services Business Process
> >>>Execution Language (WS BPEL) is centered on the Web Services hierarchy
> >>>presented in WSDL (portType, operation, message, etc.) while the ebXML
> >>>Business Process Schema Specification (BPSS) is centered on the concept
> >>>of "business documents".
> >>>
> >>>(3) An exception to this is the ebXML Messaging Service (ebMS)
> >>>specification, whose foundation is SOAP.
> >>>
> >>>(4) However, many of the ebXML specifications have incorporated Web
> >>>Services since their original version - one example is the inclusion of
> >>>a SOAP interface to ebXML Registry in its 2.0 version.
> >>>
> >>>Thanks,
> >>>Joe
> >>>
> >>>
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