RE: [regrep] UK Govt regrep requirements

[David RR Webber <david@drrw.info>]

Paul,

Since we're discussing this topic.  The OASIS CAM approach
is designed to give you a "bridge" - leaving your existing
systems and semantics in-situ - while migrating smoothly
to a new future state.

The "magic" is the content reference section as the use
of the UID system to formalize the crosswalks and the 
context rules, and of course enable federated registries
to provide automated assembly support.

I'm not sure UBL is the complete answer (or what the question
might be if it is!) - but we see lots of domain authoritive
sources (such as STEP, RosettaNet, OAGI, UPU and so on) - where
we need a means to normalize our own local usage and
vocabulary to that of a community standard.

It's this harmonization that works and CAM is designed
to foster.  It also helps teams like UBL get to where
they want to be in terms of semantic alignment faster and
easier - although to date I'm still fighting the NIH on
that one! ; -)

Thanks, DW. 
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Quoting Paul Spencer <paul.spencer@boynings.co.uk>:

> Paul,
> 
> I am well aware of UBL, although perhaps not fully up to date. Various
> people I deal with talk of aligning to UBL (or, to be accurate, I suggest
> considering it), but all have decided to wait before making changes to
> existing work. In particular, the UK has common naming standards used
> throughout the public sector. These pre-date UBL (and the ebXML work on
> component naming) and so are not fully compatible. Considering the change to
> the UBL standards is a permanent fixture on our "items for consideration"
> list, and was last rejected a month or so back.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Paul
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: MACIAS, Paul [mailto:PMACIAS@lmi.org]
> > Sent: 24 October 2003 16:09
> > To: Paul Spencer
> > Cc: regrep@lists.oasis-open.org
> > Subject: RE: [regrep] UK Govt regrep requirements
> >
> >
> > Paul,
> >
> > Has anyone mentioned looking at Universal Business Language as
> > another piece of the component management puzzle?  Joe Chiusano
> > has previously mentioned the Core Components specification.  UBL
> > builds off of Core Components for developing standard
> > representations of business components.  LMI is developing a U.S.
> > federal component library from OMB sponsored XML projects that
> > are based on the CCTS and ISO 11179 concepts.  The OASIS UBL TC
> > is nearing release of their 1.0 committee specification
> > http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=ubl
> >
> > FYI, the US Department of Navy is developing their naming and
> > design rules (NDRs) based on the work of UBL.  The DON team
> > responsible for the NDRs has been working on consensus
> > recommendations for clarifying DON implementation of concepts in
> > support of UBL. I'm checking to see if the US DON is ready to
> > share their latest materials on schema modularity that I think is
> > relevant to what you're trying to do for the UK MOD.  The full
> > set of DON NDRs based on UBL is to be ready early 2004, about the
> > time UBL 1.0 is anticipated to go out for OASIS vote.
> >
> > -Paul M.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Paul Spencer [mailto:paul.spencer@boynings.co.uk]
> > Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 4:21 AM
> > To: Farrukh Najmi
> > Cc: regrep@lists.oasis-open.org
> > Subject: RE: [regrep] UK Govt regrep requirements
> >
> >
> > Farrukh,
> >
> > I think talking about this prior to the meeting would be useful. I can
> > either call you or provide you with a number. I am in the UK, I assume you
> > are somewhere in the USA. If you let me know where, I will know the time
> > difference.
> >
> > I will mail you my phone number off-list.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Farrukh Najmi [mailto:farrukh.najmi@sun.com]
> > > Sent: 21 October 2003 02:40
> > > To: Paul Spencer
> > > Cc: Breininger, Kathryn R; regrep@lists.oasis-open.org
> > > Subject: Re: [regrep] UK Govt regrep requirements
> > >
> > >
> > > Paul,
> > >
> > > I had made the suggestion in the TC meeting. Based on past experience
> > > with several eGov and other projects
> > > I have learned that the best way to get an organization to understand
> > > the intersection of requirements
> > > and ebXML Registry is to do a focused pilot where a limited use case
> > > posed by the organization is chosen to
> > > be the testbed for deploying an ebXML Registry.
> > >
> > > I look forward to discussing this more in our next TC meeting. In the
> > > meantime please drop me
> > > an email if you want to talk over the phone to discuss this idea prior
> > > to the next meeting. Thanks.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Farrukh
> >
> >
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