RE: [regrep] ebXML Registry and Content Management (was Re: [regrep] Meeting agenda and reminder for ebXML Registry telecon December 18th, 2003)

["John Gillerman" <john.gillerman@sisconet.com>]

Farrukh,

At the risk of sounding grandiose, I would like to suggest that an RDF based
information model in the registry has application beyond ECM.  Many in the
Enterprise Application Integration (EAI) community are realizing that
without a central place to manage the meaning of data that an EAI solution
becomes brittle and expensive to maintain.  I would think an information
model in the registry would be useful for data warehousing as well.  IMHO,
one of the potential overlaps we need to manage is with the Meta Object
Facility (MOF), XML for Metadata Interchange (XMI), and Common Warehouse
Metamodel (CWM).

Also, I like your analogy between web/web servers and an semantic web/ebXML
registries.  I think it encapsulates the vision nicely.

Regards,

John Gillerman
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-----Original Message-----
From: Farrukh Najmi [mailto:Farrukh.Najmi@Sun.COM]
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 3:34 PM
To: Collins, Jeff
Cc: ebXML Regrep (ebXML Regrep)
Subject: [regrep] ebXML Registry and Content Management (was Re:
[regrep] Meeting agenda and reminder for ebXML Registry telecon December
18th, 2003)


Collins, Jeff wrote:

>Ok, so i guess i'll follow up with a few more questions:
>
>- What industry vendors have agreed to support this spec so far?
>
I assume by "support" you mean implementors of the ebXML registry (as
opposed to users of ebXML registry)?
Until recently I used to say that ebXML Registry spec is weak on vendor
adoption and strong on end-user adoption.
This changed last month when Adobe acquired Yellow Dragon Software to
leverage their ebXML Registry within their eForms products. Peter, Duane
and Matt represent Adobe on our TC and can give more details.

Sun has an implementation in open source (see my signature).

In addition there are several other implementations listed on our TC page:

http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=regrep

Finally, there are those that we keep discovering. At XML 2003 I
discovered that the
Australian company MSI ( http://www.msi.com.au ) had an ebXMl Registry
implementation.

But where we are doing even better is in actual end-user adoption and
deployment. Again see the first link in my signature for a small example.

>- Has there been any consideration of Portal Server integration use cases
with the CM API?
>
As you know Portals and CM have a close relationship with portals being
the front end and ECM systems being the backend.

Naturally, I see a close relationship between WSRP as a portal standard
and ebXML Registry as CM standard.
Recognizing that, we have recently formed a liaison with WSRP TC where
Joe Chiusano and I work in the Publish/Bind/Discover SC under Alan Kropp
of Vignette. Based on initial discussion we feel that ebXMl Registry
brings a strong value to WSRP and portals.

>- What would a CM vendor use ebXML for today if it doesn't support
versioning as defined by the CM products on the market today?  Would it be
read only?
>
ebXML Registry supports tracking of versions today. It allows for
implementation specific extensions to support the missing check
in/checkout type functions. Until we support full versioning this aspect
of CM would not be interoperable. Some interop is better than none in
the interim.

>- How does ebXML interoperate with WebDAV?
>
ebXML Registry defines an abstract API in UML and then defines normative
bindings to SOAP, HTML and ebXML Messaging. a binding to WebDav has not
been defined yet. If we see a demand for it we could consider it.

>Overall, are there plans for reference ECM applications?
>
The reference application is the one that was defined in the ebXML
Architecture as an eBusiness artifacts registry for CPP/A, BPSS and CC.
Another reference application is Web Service publish/discovery. These
applications are deployed at Sun and other places. I would love to see a
WSRP publish/bind/discover use case as a reference application.

The killer application for ebXML Registry in my opinion is eForms.

>Plans for application support or integration from Portal Vendors or Apache
in something like Cocoon?
>
The freebXML Registry project under freebxml.org is where a grassroots
group of vendor and user companies are working together on ebXML Registry.

>How would a vendor achieve benefit from committing resources to this
specification?
>
>
Like any other standards work, a vendor should only get involved if they
feel the standard is important to their future. By getting involved they
make sure that their customer/product needs are met within the standard
and that they are not stuck with a lot of baggage that they do not wish
to implement in their products.

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Regards,
Farrukh

Content Enable your enterprise with the freebXML Registry:

http://ebxmlrr.sourceforge.net/presentations/freebXMLRegistryBrochure.pdf
http://ebxmlrr.sourceforge.net
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