RE: [regrep] ebXML Registry and Content Management -- Compromise (was Re

Based on Kathryn’s comments about the charter and backward capability, I submit the following names for the Semantic Subcommittee:

Semantic Services Management Subcommittee
Semantic Registry Services Subcommittee
Semantic Best Practices Subcommittee

<Kathryn>I believe our intention (ebXML Registry TC) is that

the ebXML Registry specs and standards support and enable content

management, not that the ebXML Registry specs become the definitive

Content Management System standards. Generally speaking, a Content

Management System includes authoring, check-in/check-out, workflow,

versioning, etc. An ebXML Registry has broader application in its

enabling of ebusiness, federation features, classification support,

interoperation with other OASIS and ebXML standards, and additional

services, most of which can compliment a CMS.

We need to bear in mind our charter http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/regrep/charter.php and how

functionality we add affects our interoperability as well as the

requirements for core components, BP, CPPA, etc.</Kathryn>

Zachary Alexander

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-----Original Message-----
From: Breininger, Kathryn R [mailto:kathryn.r.breininger@boeing.com]
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 5:09 PM
To: Farrukh Najmi; Collins, Jeff
Cc: ebXML Regrep (ebXML Regrep)
Subject: RE: [regrep] ebXML Registry and Content Management (was Re: [regrep] Meeting agenda and reminder for ebXML Registry telecon December 18th, 2003)

I would like to insert a brief clarification here. In a couple of the

recent e-mails in this string there have been references to ebXML

Registry specs as Content Management Standards. As I stated in our

telecon yesterday, I believe our intention (ebXML Registry TC) is that

the ebXML Registry specs and standards support and enable content

management, not that the ebXML Registry specs become the definitive

Content Management System standards. Generally speaking, a Content

Management System includes authoring, check-in/check-out, workflow,

versioning, etc. An ebXML Registry has broader application in its

enabling of ebusiness, federation features, classification support,

interoperation with other OASIS and ebXML standards, and additional

services, most of which can compliment a CMS.

We need to bear in mind our charter

http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/regrep/charter.php and how

functionality we add affects our interoperability as well as the

requirements for core components, BP, CPPA, etc. There are areas of

overlap it is true: an ebXML Registry manages metadata about the

registered objects, and a CMS manages metadata as well. However, an

ebXML Registry has a larger and slightly different scope and as such it

can support and enable content management, but is not a standard

developed specifically for CMS.

Kathryn

-----Original Message-----

From: Farrukh Najmi [mailto:Farrukh.Najmi@Sun.COM]

Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 12:34 PM

To: Collins, Jeff

Cc: ebXML Regrep (ebXML Regrep)

Subject: [regrep] ebXML Registry and Content Management (was Re:

[regrep] Meeting agenda and reminder for ebXML Registry telecon December

18th, 2003)

Collins, Jeff wrote:

>Ok, so i guess i'll follow up with a few more questions:

>- What industry vendors have agreed to support this spec so far?

I assume by "support" you mean implementors of the ebXML registry (as

opposed to users of ebXML registry)?

Until recently I used to say that ebXML Registry spec is weak on vendor

adoption and strong on end-user adoption.

This changed last month when Adobe acquired Yellow Dragon Software to

leverage their ebXML Registry within their eForms products. Peter, Duane

and Matt represent Adobe on our TC and can give more details.

Sun has an implementation in open source (see my signature).

In addition there are several other implementations listed on our TC

page:

http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=regrep

Finally, there are those that we keep discovering. At XML 2003 I

discovered that the

Australian company MSI ( http://www.msi.com.au ) had an ebXMl Registry

implementation.

But where we are doing even better is in actual end-user adoption and

deployment. Again see the first link in my signature for a small

example.

>- Has there been any consideration of Portal Server integration use

>cases with the CM API?

As you know Portals and CM have a close relationship with portals being

the front end and ECM systems being the backend.

Naturally, I see a close relationship between WSRP as a portal standard

and ebXML Registry as CM standard.

Recognizing that, we have recently formed a liaison with WSRP TC where

Joe Chiusano and I work in the Publish/Bind/Discover SC under Alan Kropp

of Vignette. Based on initial discussion we feel that ebXMl Registry

brings a strong value to WSRP and portals.

>- What would a CM vendor use ebXML for today if it doesn't support

>versioning as defined by the CM products on the market today? Would it

>be read only?

ebXML Registry supports tracking of versions today. It allows for

implementation specific extensions to support the missing check

in/checkout type functions. Until we support full versioning this aspect

of CM would not be interoperable. Some interop is better than none in

the interim.

>- How does ebXML interoperate with WebDAV?

ebXML Registry defines an abstract API in UML and then defines normative

bindings to SOAP, HTML and ebXML Messaging. a binding to WebDav has not

been defined yet. If we see a demand for it we could consider it.

>Overall, are there plans for reference ECM applications?

The reference application is the one that was defined in the ebXML

Architecture as an eBusiness artifacts registry for CPP/A, BPSS and CC.

Another reference application is Web Service publish/discovery. These

applications are deployed at Sun and other places. I would love to see a

WSRP publish/bind/discover use case as a reference application.

The killer application for ebXML Registry in my opinion is eForms.

>Plans for application support or integration from Portal Vendors or

>Apache in something like Cocoon?

The freebXML Registry project under freebxml.org is where a grassroots

group of vendor and user companies are working together on ebXML

Registry.

>How would a vendor achieve benefit from committing resources to this

>specification?

Like any other standards work, a vendor should only get involved if they

feel the standard is important to their future. By getting involved they

make sure that their customer/product needs are met within the standard

and that they are not stuck with a lot of baggage that they do not wish

to implement in their products.

Regards,

Farrukh

Content Enable your enterprise with the freebXML Registry:

http://ebxmlrr.sourceforge.net/presentations/freebXMLRegistryBrochure.pd

http://ebxmlrr.sourceforge.net

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