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Subject: Agenda and meeting reminder for our meeting to be held January 8th at 1:30 pm PT
This is a reminder of our ebXML Reg/Rep telecon for Thursday January 8th at 1:30 pm Pacific Time. This is our regular bi-weekly telecon, and is scheduled from 1:30 - 3:30. Call in information is below: USA domestic toll free number: 1-866-235-8350 International number: 206-655-2988 Pass code: 669014# Here is the phone number for the operator if you have any problems: 206-655-2254. Agenda: 1. Minute taker 2. Approval of minutes from last meeting 3. eGov (Farrukh, anything to report?) 4. SCM subcommittee approved 5. Open Forum 2004 (China) follow-up 6. OASIS Symposia and possible ebXML TC joint meeting in April (e-mails attached) 7. Liaison with W3C RDF DA WG or RDF API WG? (e-mail attached) 8. XML Europe 2004 Amsterdam (e-mail attached) 9. Query subcommittee/Discovery subcommittee discussion (left over from last meeting) 10. Other issues/items 11. Next meeting (sorry, I have not been able to access the OASIS website, so could not provide URLs for the e-mail strings) <<[regrep] FW: [OASIS members] Call For Presentations: OASIS Symposium>> <<[regrep] Follow-up on proposed Joint TC meetings>> <<[chairs] TC Meetings in New Orleans!>> <<RE: [regrep] RDF Data Access WG Charter>> <<Re: [regrep] XML Europe 2004 - Amsterdam>> Please let me know if there are additional items to be added to the agenda. Talk to you all tomorrow! Kathryn Kathryn Breininger CENTRAL Project Manager Emerging Technologies Boeing Library Services 425-965-0182 phone 425-237-3491 fax kathryn.r.breininger@boeing.com
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- From: "Breininger, Kathryn R" <kathryn.r.breininger@boeing.com>
- To: "ebXML Regrep (ebXML Regrep)" <regrep@lists.oasis-open.org>
- Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 14:49:34 -0800
FYI - could the interoperability demo be run here as well? -----Original Message----- From: Karl F. Best [mailto:karl.best@oasis-open.org] Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 2:20 PM To: members@lists.oasis-open.org; xml-dev@lists.xml.org Subject: [OASIS members] Call For Presentations: OASIS Symposium The OASIS Symposium on Reliable Infrastructures for XML April 26th and 27th, 2004 in New Orleans, Louisiana Call for Presentations OASIS, the Organization for the Advancement of Structured Information Standards, invites you to submit a proposal for a presentation, panel discussion or tutorial for the OASIS Symposium on Reliable Infrastructures for XML. The goals of the symposium are to: * Provide a forum for OASIS Technical Committee members to exchange ideas and present results of ongoing work, works-in-progress, etc.; * Identify areas where coordination between standards efforts is needed to promote interoperability; * Identify unaddressed topics where standards development is needed; * Enable outside experts to present issues / opportunities to OASIS members. The symposium will be followed by two days available to OASIS Technical Committees, Joint Committees and Member Sections for face-to-face working sessions. The OASIS Annual General Meeting will also be held in conjunction with the symposium. Overview Many different (and partially interchangeable) technologies are proposed or available to increase the reliability of XML-based messaging and networking infrastructure. These include technologies applied: * At the transport layer (e.g. reliable messaging specifications); * At the application layer (e.g. transaction protocols); * At intermediate levels (e.g. routing, point-to-point compared to end-to-end); * By using Message-Oriented Middleware as a carrier for XML messages. We define "reliable" to mean that implementing one or more of these technologies in an infrastructure removes some of the burden of ensuring application integrity from software programmers and architects. The OASIS Symposium is focused on exploring the current state of these technologies and exploring areas where open standards are needed. Instructions The symposium program committee invites you to submit a proposal for a presentation, panel discussion or tutorial that addresses technologies and standards for reliable XML infrastructures. Presentations should be 30 minutes long including question and answer. Sessions will consist of related presentations, ending with a question-and-answer session directed to the presenters. Panel sessions should be 60 minutes long. Proposals for panels should include the topic, 3-to-4 potential panelists (name and/or role) and proposed format (e.g. Q&A, short presentations). Tutorials should be 1/2 day sessions. Tutorial proposals should state intended audience and learning objectives. Proposals should address topics in reliability as applied to XML-based communications at the technology and implementation levels, ideally driven by usage scenarios. Special consideration will be given to proposals that: * Compare and contrast multiple related technologies (clear comparisons of published and forthcoming XML transaction protocols) with a view toward guidance for application architects; * Support and consider decisions about choice of appropriate technologies (e.g. use of reliable messaging and simpler protocols rather than transactional termination protocols); * Place OASIS technologies in a broader context of competing or complementary specifications (e.g. relating OASIS work to the variety of published reliable messaging specifications); * Consider alternative approaches to transaction management (e.g. local rollback versus compensation-based protocols); * Compare reliability techniques for environmental models containing benign threats versus malign threats; * Consider techniques for ensuring accountability of origin and receipt; * Discuss the impact of digital signatures and encryption on reliability techniques. OASIS will publish proceedings of the symposium. Authors should arrange for any necessary releases for publication prior to submission of their proposal. To submit a proposal, please send the following information by email to symposium@oasis-open.org: * The full contact details (name, affiliation, email, phone, postal address) of one presenter who will act as the primary contact for the proposal or panel discussion; * The full list of authors; * A 1-page abstract outlining the subject and key points of your proposal, panel discussion or tutorial. All submissions will be acknowledged. Important dates Symposium 26th and 27th April 2004 Location New Orleans Proposals Due 9 February 2004 Notification to submitters 15 March 2004 Materials Due 12 April 2004 Program Committee The Program Committee is the OASIS Technical Advisory Board (TAB): * Karl Best, OASIS * Derek Coleman, HP * William Cox, BEA * Chet Ensign, LexisNexis * Chris Ferris, IBM * Eduardo Gutentag, Sun * Jackson He, Intel * Tim Moses, Entrust * Krishna Sankar, Cisco * Pete Wenzel, SeeBeyond For further information, send email to symposium@oasis-open.org. _______________________________________________________________ This email list is used solely by OASIS for official consortium communications. Opt-out requests may be sent to member_services@oasis-open.org, however, all members are strongly encouraged to maintain a subscription to this list. To unsubscribe from this mailing list (and be removed from the roster of the OASIS TC), go to http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/regrep/members/leave_workgroup.php.--- End Message ---
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- From: "Breininger, Kathryn R" <kathryn.r.breininger@boeing.com>
- To: "ebXML Regrep (ebXML Regrep)" <regrep@lists.oasis-open.org>
- Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 14:44:21 -0800
The preference from OASIS is to see ebXML TCs meet at New Orleans (dates set for the week of April 26th) where a number of other OASIS TCs will be meeting (at the OASIS Symposium currently being arranged). OASIS would like to see as many TCs in one place at a time as possible. They will also be holding the OASIS annual members meeting that week as well. Two days have been set aside for TC meetings (Wed-Thurs). If the ebXML TCs prefer a standalone event, they can help put it together, but would rather see ebXML TCs at the same venue as the other OASIS TCs. This will be on the agenda again at the next ebXML JC meeting in January. I will provide an update at our next ebXML Registry telecon. Kathryn Kathryn Breininger CENTRAL Project Manager Emerging Technologies Boeing Library Services 425-965-0182 phone 425-237-3491 fax kathryn.r.breininger@boeing.com To unsubscribe from this mailing list (and be removed from the roster of the OASIS TC), go to http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/regrep/members/leave_workgroup.php.--- End Message ---
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- From: "Dee Schur" <dee.schur@oasis-open.org>
- To: "staff" <staff@oasis-open.org>,<chairs@lists.oasis-open.org>
- Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 11:16:44 -0800
Hi all! The OASIS TAB is busy making preparations for the OASIS TAB Symposium 2004 to be held in New Orleans, LA on 26 - 27 April. They will be releasing the CfP shortly. We will be holding the OASIS AGM and a reception as well. We are making some TC meeting space available for 28 - 29 April at the same location. As usual, OASIS will cover the cost of the meeting rooms and the TC will be responsible for the phone and AV. I need to know ASAP if your TC is interested. We are in final negotiations with a four star hotel and we are very excited about this location and the obvious amenities of such a popular destination, not to mention that the New Orleans Jazz Festival runs during this time, see <http://www.nojazzfest.com/>. Thank you for your time and consideration. Regards, Dee--- End Message ---
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- From: "John Gillerman" <john.gillerman@sisconet.com>
- To: <regrep@lists.oasis-open.org>
- Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 15:05:47 -0800
Farrukh, Seems like we are discussing two central issues. First, will the RDF API meet our needs (it it our own then obviously yes) and what are the issues related to working with this group with regard to getting our work done. Second, what is the best RDF migration strategy. With regard to the former, I would hope that we can get them to see the ebXML registry as a important use case and that their schedule matches up with what we have in mind. Seems like we might be able to get a sense of their willingness fairly easily. It might be good if we picked someone from our group to be lead liaison with the RDF API WG. That way we can use that person as a point of synchronism for our input. With regard to the later, I think it is an open question whether it is better to make two smaller changes spaced out over time versus a larger change sooner. I can see that the first strategy would be less disruptive in the short term. On the other hand, the installed base issue can only get worse (hopefully). Additionally, if we do it in two steps, I would think we wouldn't want to do the second step to soon. If we come out with two significantly different standards to close together, our manager/tester/release/user folks will kill us. Presumably, the entire ebXML community will want to move to the newest standard regardless of if it is two smaller steps or one big one. Also, I think we need to try and evaluate if using the same API would increase the market acceptance of ebXML. Speaking for IEC WG 16, since there is some existing interest in using an ontology related API as a way to abstract from the differences in registry access technologies, I would think that the use of the RDF based API would increase market acceptance. In this way, our abstract registry API could be one in the same as our ebXML technology profile and thus streamline our standards process. John -----Original Message----- From: Farrukh Najmi [mailto:Farrukh.Najmi@Sun.COM] Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 10:17 AM To: John Gillerman Cc: regrep@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: Re: [regrep] RDF Data Access WG Charter John Gillerman wrote: >Farrukh, > >I did not mean to comment on the existing RDF Net API submission, but on >what could eventually be standardized by the RDF DA WG. > That clarifies things a lot. RDF Data Access spec is not yet defined and can be influenced. My previous email suggested that ebXML Registry API should be proposed as input to the RDF DA API. >My own personal >opinion is that there might be time to help shape requirements. > +1 that is just what I was suggesting. > In this >case, it is unclear if the eventual RDF API would fit the bill. Do we know >that the RDF DA WG wouldn't consider the requirements for federation, event >notification, and the others? Seems like a good API for a use case such as >a semantic data grid would include these things. > > To be very clear, the ideal situation from my perspective is that RDF DA WG accept ebXML Registry V4 as RDF DA API and help us meet all requiremjents identified for RDF DA. >With regard to the applicability of RDF, I am no expert, but had thought >that RDF could refer to non RDF content. Am I off base here? > Yes but it does not get into access control, federation etc. >Couldn't an >RDF API support the uploading of non RDF based content to a server? > It could but RDF Net API does not. If ebXML Registry V4 API was the RDF DA API then it would naturally. >... > > >With regard to the current API, has the team considered an API that is >content and state neutral. I may be completely confused here and rehashing >old discussion, but doesn't the API have content and state specific parts in >it? > Your suggestions makes sense and fortunateley this is already the case. The ebXML Registry specs are totally content neutral though XML content has some special support in certain areas. The API is a stateless API. >I had thought that your vision of web servers is to the web as ebXML is to >the semantic web implied that ebXML would be designed not only for intra >enterprise integration as well as inter enterprise integration. Do people >think that the current API applies well to this more general use case (one >that scales down to connecting to local apps together). In this case the >RIM is just an information model that each server could expose. > > ebXML Registry is being used intra and inter enterprise today. In both cases the RIM as well as the ebXML Registry RS API is used. Using the API does not mean you need multple registry federations. Both RIM and RS API are required in all cases. >I am all for extending/maintaining the current RIM, but am wondering if the >current one can't be modeled using RDF (from an interface perspective only). > > That is indeed the long term vision I articulated in last email. In the long term vision the RIM is entirely mapped to and expressed in OWL/RDF. In this vision the underlying metamodel is OWL/RDF while the information model is RIM. RIM would be a special OWL ontology in this vision that could be extended by verticals, site admins and end users based on specific needs. In this long term vision any other OWL ontology or RDF content ma also be submitted to the registry as extension to RIM. >Could an RDF interface be used to browse and query without changing the RIM? >Would this be a too radical departure from current ebXML technology? > > That is the fundemental issue. The long term vision of moving RIM to OWL/RDF is too radical a departure and effects implementors and end-users to drstically and abruptly. That is why I mentioned a two phased incremental approach. The first phase (version 4?) would not change existing RIM but just extend it by adding incremental support for publish/discovery/use of OWL/RDF into the registry. One could begin to use Ontologys instead of ClassificationSchemes for classification and discovery. Later (maybe in version 5?) we could move RIM to OWL/RDF and meet our longer term objectives. This would make RIM completely type and attribute extensible. >I agree that ebXML Registry goes beyond an RDF API since we specify content. > > To be clear I said RDF Net API submisison and not RDF DA WG deliverables which are yet to be defined. >I don't mean to be a skeptic, but I don't believe that the ebXML API would >be a good RDF API. I think that some believe that RQL would make a good RDF >API and it is simpler as well as being content and state neutral. > > I feel that ebXML Registry version 4 API could be geared to meet the requirements of the RDF DA WG and as such would be a great RDF DA API (by design not by accident). Thanks for contributing to this stimyulating discussion. -- Regards, Farrukh To unsubscribe from this mailing list (and be removed from the roster of the OASIS TC), go to http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/regrep/members/leave_workgroup.php.--- End Message ---
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- From: "Duane Nickull" <dnickull@adobe.com>
- To: "Farrukh Najmi" <Farrukh.Najmi@Sun.COM>
- Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 08:53:25 -0800
D'oh!!! Seems like we should have conferred on this before hand. I also submitted similar content. Am open to co-presenting if anyone is interested in teaming up on tutorials etc. Duane Farrukh Najmi wrote: > David RR Webber wrote: > >> Not sure who else is planning to be in Amsterdam in April - but the >> deadline for submission is today. >> >> I've submitted three OASIS talks - first is Business Process modelling >> which is aimed at showing people how to model BPSS and >> BPEL, the second is titled "ebXML today" and is aimed at >> giving an overview of how to use all the ebXML components >> with up to the minute technical details, and the third is on >> using OASIS CAM and Registry technology for information >> integration. >> >> Obviously I'd love to have loads of other people presenting >> sessions on how they are using OASIS spec's for use cases >> and projects.... >> >> Link to submissions is: http://www.xmleurope.com/2004/ >> >> Thanks, DW. > > I submitted the following two papers: > > 1. Deploying an ebXML-based Web Service Registry > <http://www.idealliance.org/europe/04/call/paperedit.asp?id=47&peopleid=237> > > 2. Web Content Management Using the OASIS ebXML Registry Standard > <http://www.idealliance.org/europe/04/call/paperedit.asp?id=48&peopleid=237> > >-- >Regards, >Farrukh > > > > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list (and be removed from the roster > of the OASIS TC), go to > http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/regrep/members/leave_workgroup.php. -- Senior Standards Strategist Adobe Systems, Inc. http://www.adobe.com To unsubscribe from this mailing list (and be removed from the roster of the OASIS TC), go to http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/regrep/members/leave_workgroup.php.--- End Message ---
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