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Subject: Re: [regrep] OWL-S W3C Submission: Reference to ebXML


Your words resonate.

Unfortunately I've not found anyway into the W3C oligarchy
from the OASIS side.  There simply is no authorized official channel
and so any individual emails - even from TC chairs - are dependent
on personal relationships with stakeholders behind the W3C WG

Someone else may know something I don't on this one - but anything
is worth a try at this point.  Even within the OASIS world seems
like at times there is a cloak of invisibility draped over the work
of TCs - maybe there's a role here for


in providing more logical access to the various independently
moving parts that is the OASIS "helicopter" in motion?!?

Cheers, DW

p.s. Dictionary definition of helicopter - 100,000 parts moving
      in an apparent coordinated formation in the sky attempting
      to defy the laws of physics.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <ewallace@cme.nist.gov>
To: <regrep@lists.oasis-open.org>; <david@drrw.info>
Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 11:09 AM
Subject: Re: [regrep] OWL-S W3C Submission: Reference to ebXML

> David Webber wrote:
> >Seems like they were floundering around in the tunnel when their
flashlight ran
> >out and they missed the crown jewel at their feet...namely BPSS V2.
> >
> >Interestingly they sight my article in their references:-
> > http://www.xml.org/xml/feature_articles/2000_1107_miller.shtml
> >
> >which clearly shows that ebXML predates web services, but everywhere
their references
> >allude to the reverse situation.
> OWL-S is focused on Semantic Web Services so they can be expected to be
> toward Web Services specifications.  This, of course, doesn't justify
> or misleading statements.
> When the OWL-S notes were first submitted, I read this:
>  >>  - Since OWL-S provides a language for the description of the
behaviour of Web
>  >>services, its scope is complementary to that of ebXML. In fact, OWL-S
>  >>could themselves be used within ebXML to describe the business
processes of
>  >>interacting Web services.
> and saw (as David did) that they must have completely missed BPSS.  The
Note in which
> this bullet appears is supposed to outline the relationship, including
overlaps, of
> OWL-S and other specifications.  Since this is clearly incorrect with
respect to
> ebXML BPSS, I suggest that OASIS send an official note with suggested text
to correct
> it.  If there are also statements that mis-represent the chronology of
ebXML and
> Web Services specs then I suggest that this be officially noted as well.
> -Evan

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