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Subject: Re: [regrep] Standards approval process
(Note: Let's try to remove names from this thread when we know they are subscribed to the list) John: I have not investigated RDF/OWL for this purpose but I suspect it may be a little weak. In any event, if someone thinks it has merit, by all means, let's investigate (in CEFACT). My point is that we have to decide on one thing and then use that one thing, not let every person use their own thing. This is a stronger reason for the work to be done under only one standards org (UN/CEFACT). Duane John Gillerman wrote: >Duane, > >Am I confused or are we were looking at RDF/OWL to serialize this sort of >stuff? Isn't RDF/OWL more appropriate than XMI here? > >Regards, > >John Gillerman >SISCO >www.sisconet.com >T: 732 937-9745 >F: 775-667-0355 >M: 732 979-9595 > > > > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Duane Nickull [mailto:dnickull@adobe.com] >>Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 11:53 AM >>To: BEDINI Ivan RD-BIZZ-CAE >>Cc: Chiusano Joseph; regrep@lists.oasis-open.org; Farrukh >>Najmi; Breininger, Kathryn R; David Webber (XML) >>Subject: Re: [regrep] Standards approval process >> >>Ivan: >> >>The document is not complete and there are problems that >>UN/CEFACT has clearly not addressed yet. For that reason, I >>am stopping work on this document. >> >>joseph is correct - the serialization is far more important >>than the storage. Please get off this whole idea of how to >>map to the RIM until it is understood what the serialization >>will be. There is a dependency on this and until this is >>solved, you and everyone else working on the storage are >>probably not spending your time well. >> >>Some partial answers inline: >> >>BEDINI Ivan RD-BIZZ-CAE wrote: >> >> >> >>>how to represent an ABIE for example. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>XML Schema can represent this. There are things that XML >>Schema cannot do and those will be limitations. >> >> >> >>>an ABIE normally is an aggregate of more simplest basic >>> >>> >>components and >> >> >>>less simplest associations to others aggregate objects. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>Associations may be represented in the registry but in a >>serialization, they can be expressed again using XML Schema >>(or XMI perhaps). >> >> >> >>>to define an ABIE you need to define its structure too and I can't >>>understand how we can define that in the property element of the >>>serialisation. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>Again - XML schema and XMI are the best tools we have. >> >> >> >>>there, all elements are only sequentially put in the XML >>> >>> >>document and >> >> >>>so doing we lose : >>>- the structure of a CC >>> >>> >>> >>> >>Not true. It is still referencable via the UUID. >> >> >> >>>- all associations between CCs >>> >>> >>> >>> >>Not true - you can query the registry. >> >> >> >>>- XML potentialities to automate structure and semantic >>> >>> >>controls of the >> >> >>>data submission. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>We actually wrote such an engine to help build documents out >>of CC's with context declarations. It is not a trivial thing to do. >> >>There is a lot of work that needs to be done. >> >>Duane Nickull >> >>-- >>*********** >>Senior Standards Strategist - Adobe Systems, Inc. - >>http://www.adobe.com Vice Chair - UN/CEFACT Bureau Plenary - >>http://www.unece.org/cefact/ Chair - OASIS eb SOA TC - >>http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=ebsoa >>*********** >> >> >>To unsubscribe from this mailing list (and be removed from >>the roster of the OASIS TC), go to >>http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/regrep/members/le >>ave_workgroup.php. >> >> >> >> > > >To unsubscribe from this mailing list (and be removed from the roster of the OASIS TC), go to http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/regrep/members/leave_workgroup.php. > > > -- *********** Senior Standards Strategist - Adobe Systems, Inc. - http://www.adobe.com Vice Chair - UN/CEFACT Bureau Plenary - http://www.unece.org/cefact/ Chair - OASIS eb SOA TC - http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=ebsoa ***********
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