Re: [regrep] Standards approval process

["David Webber \(XML\)" <david@drrw.info>]

John,

I believe the RegRep SCM SC is working more in that area.

DW

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Gillerman" <john.gillerman@sisconet.com>
To: "'Duane Nickull'" <dnickull@adobe.com>; "'BEDINI Ivan RD-BIZZ-CAE'"
<ivan.bedini@francetelecom.com>
Cc: "'Chiusano Joseph'" <chiusano_joseph@bah.com>;
<regrep@lists.oasis-open.org>; "'Farrukh Najmi'" <Farrukh.Najmi@Sun.COM>;
"'Breininger, Kathryn R'" <kathryn.r.breininger@boeing.com>; "'David Webber
(XML)'" <david@drrw.info>
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 12:12 PM
Subject: RE: [regrep] Standards approval process


> Duane,
>
> Am I confused or are we were looking at RDF/OWL to serialize this sort of
> stuff?  Isn't RDF/OWL more appropriate than XMI here?
>
> Regards,
>
> John Gillerman
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Duane Nickull [mailto:dnickull@adobe.com]
> > Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 11:53 AM
> > To: BEDINI Ivan RD-BIZZ-CAE
> > Cc: Chiusano Joseph; regrep@lists.oasis-open.org; Farrukh
> > Najmi; Breininger, Kathryn R; David Webber (XML)
> > Subject: Re: [regrep] Standards approval process
> >
> > Ivan:
> >
> > The document is not complete and there are problems that
> > UN/CEFACT has clearly not addressed yet.  For that reason, I
> > am stopping work on this document.
> >
> > joseph is correct  - the serialization is far more important
> > than the storage.  Please get off this whole idea of how to
> > map to the RIM until it is understood what the serialization
> > will be.  There is a dependency on this and until this is
> > solved, you and everyone else working on the storage are
> > probably not spending your time well.
> >
> > Some partial answers inline:
> >
> > BEDINI Ivan RD-BIZZ-CAE wrote:
> >
> > >how to represent an ABIE for example.
> > >
> > >
> > XML Schema can represent this.  There are things that XML
> > Schema cannot do and those will be limitations.
> >
> > >an ABIE normally is an aggregate of more simplest basic
> > components and
> > >less simplest associations to others aggregate objects.
> > >
> > >
> > Associations may be represented in the registry but in a
> > serialization, they can be expressed again using XML Schema
> > (or XMI perhaps).
> >
> > >to define an ABIE you need to define its structure too and I can't
> > >understand how we can define that in the property element of the
> > >serialisation.
> > >
> > >
> > Again - XML schema and XMI are the best tools we have.
> >
> > >there, all elements are only sequentially put in the XML
> > document and
> > >so doing we lose :
> > >- the structure of a CC
> > >
> > >
> > Not true.  It is still referencable via the UUID.
> >
> > >- all associations between CCs
> > >
> > >
> > Not true - you can query the registry.
> >
> > >- XML potentialities to automate structure and semantic
> > controls of the
> > >data submission.
> > >
> > >
> > We actually wrote such an engine to help build documents out
> > of CC's with context declarations.  It is not a trivial thing to do.
> >
> > There is a lot of work that needs to be done.
> >
> > Duane Nickull
> >
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