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Subject: RE: [regrep] RE : [Fwd: [regrep] New ballot "Vote on cc-Review subteam report" (WAS RE:[regrep] Standards approval process)]


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for example a "getABIE()" method, has to retrieve full definition components (ABIE with its BBIE and ASBIE properties) in an atomic call.
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Why not a "getRegistryObject()"* method with one of the parameters signifying ObjectType of "Core Component"?

*may not be the exact name (sent quickly without opening spec - sorry)

Kind Regards,
Joseph Chiusano
Booz Allen Hamilton
Strategy and Technology Consultants to the World
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: BEDINI Ivan RD-BIZZ-CAE [mailto:ivan.bedini@francetelecom.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 12:52 PM
> To: regrep@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: [regrep] RE : [Fwd: [regrep] New ballot "Vote on 
> cc-Review subteam report" (WAS RE:[regrep] Standards approval 
> process)]
> 
> Thanks Farrukh, we agree to edit the mapping and to submit a 
> draft ASAP to the TC. 
> 
> 
> Only to give an example, please find attached to this mail 
> UBL Invoice Structure, which represent a "complete" ABIE.
> The files are : 
> - one in EDIFRANCE BS xml format (which isn't 100% compliant 
> to CCTS yet...)
> - the other is the BS schema
> - the last is the ebRIM format (it is only an example, the 
> inner assosiactions are not provided in the file)
> 
> The ebRIM format shows why I spoke about a dedicated API for 
> CC. When I retrieve a generic CC in reality I need to 
> retrieve all associated sub-component and that couldn't be 
> done by a simple request provided by the QueryManager In 
> fact, for example a "getABIE()" method, has to retrieve full 
> definition components (ABIE with its BBIE and ASBIE 
> properties) in an atomic call.
> 
> Rgards,
> Ivan
> 
>  
> 
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Farrukh Najmi [mailto:Farrukh.Najmi@Sun.COM] Envoyé : 
> lundi 17 janvier 2005 22:16 À : regrep@lists.oasis-open.org 
> Objet : Re: [Fwd: [regrep] New ballot "Vote on cc-Review 
> subteam report" (WAS RE:[regrep] Standards approval process)]
> 
> 
> Resending after fixing the subject per Joe's earlier suggestion.
> 
> Sorry I think it was me who replied to the wrong message at 
> the begining 
> of this thread. Please try and use the subject Joe started in 
> response.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> BEDINI Ivan RD-BIZZ-CAE wrote:
> 
> >I'm sorry but the mapping is not so simple:
> >the better solution for ASCC and ASBIE is an ebRIM association or an 
> >extrinsic object ? do we need a dedicated registry object for BCC, 
> >BBIE, ASCC, ASBIE properties or an association is enough?
> >Business Context will be a registry classification or an extrinsic
> >object ?
> >  
> >
> I think Ivan touches on an important point above... That the 
> fundemental issue is the mapping between two information models:
> 
> a) The CCTS Information Model (source model)
> 
> b) The ebXML Registry Information Model (target model)
> 
> Both models are defined in UML and a mapping between the two 
> should be the main focus. Such a mapping should be an 
> abstract mapping that is independent of Serialization or 
> Storage formats at least initialy.
> 
> This whole debate about which comes first: Serialization 
> format or Storage format is not the core issue to debate IMHO.
> 
> Instead we should be debating on the mapping issues between 
> the two models (see Iva's examles above) and using the ebXML 
> Registry Tutorial:
> 
>     http://ebxmlrr.sourceforge.net/tmp/regrep-tutorial-draft-04.pdf
> 
> as a key input when trying solution to mapping problems.
> 
> BTW, is any one able to take Editorship of above document 
> from me as I have become a bottleneck on that document? Ivan, 
> would you be interested given that you and your colleagues 
> have been using this document since its earliest version and 
> have some practical experience with its content?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> Farrukh
> 
> 
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