Re: [regrep] [RS Issue] 1.8.1 Registry Clients, line 520 needs clarification

["Goran Zugic" <gzugic@ebxmlsoft.com>]

Hi Farrukh,

I still think that it is the Registry server's Web tier but let's get over
it. A terminology differences in our views of the clients and servers won't
make any big change here and it won't affect anybody.

Thanks for the new Registry Client paragraph. I am OK with it.

Regards,
Goran

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Farrukh Najmi" <Farrukh.Najmi@Sun.COM>
To: <regrep@lists.oasis-open.org>
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 9:08 AM
Subject: Re: [regrep] [RS Issue] 1.8.1 Registry Clients, line 520 needs
clarification


> Goran Zugic wrote:
>
>> Hi Farrukh,
>>
>> I think that this is just terminology. In a multi-tier J2EE architecture
>> your JSP/Servlet UI implementation is a part of the Web tier (you need a
>> Web container to run JSPs and Servlets) which should  formally be on the
>> Registry server side. It could be on the same machine (application
>> server) where your Registry application tier is running or it could be on
>> a separate machine (your case) but to me it is still Registry server. I
>> guess the reason why you put the UI on that "Registry Client" was to
>> separate presentation layer processing from the application tier. Your
>> case is not a special case to me. Your JSP/Servlet UI implementation is a
>> standard Web tier implementation that separates presentation layer from
>> the application logic and I don't see a reason for adding that "A special
>> type of Registry Client" paragraph. I hope that I haven't misunderstood
>> your implementation case.
>
> I would put it differently. In my mind, the definition of a registry
> client is that it "is a software program that interacts with the registry
> using registry protocols."
> By that definition a server side web tier program that accesses the
> registry using registry protocols is a registry client.
>
> I have replaced the text as follows:
> "
> 1.7.1 Registry Clients
>
> A Registry Client is a software program that interacts with the registry
> using registry protocols. The Registry Client MAY be a Graphical User
> Interface (GUI), software service or agent. The Registry Client typically
> accesses the registry using SOAP 1.1 with Attachments [SwA] protocol.
>
> A Registry Client may run on a client machine or may be a web tier service
> running on a server and may accessed by a web browser. In either case the
> Registry Client interacts with the registry using registry protocols.
>
> "
>
> Let me know if this is adequate resolution of the issue.
>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Goran
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Farrukh Najmi"
>> <Farrukh.Najmi@Sun.COM>
>> To: <regrep@lists.oasis-open.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 3:17 PM
>> Subject: [regrep] [RS Issue] 1.8.1 Registry Clients, line 520 needs
>> clarification
>>
>>
>>> Goran Zugic wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>  I told you that I will clarify my comment on "1.8.1 Registry Clients"
>>>> second paragraph line 520:
>>>>  "...
>>>> A special type of Registry Client is a Web Browser that typically
>>>> accesses the registry using the HTTP 1.1 protocol. Note that it is
>>>> possible for a Web Browser to access a service that is a Registry
>>>> Client (not shown in figure) as is the case in a thin-client GUI.
>>>> ..."
>>>>  What this paragraph says is that a Web Browser (that is a Registry
>>>> Client) can access another Registry Client (Line 521). To me it could
>>>> access Registry Server only. This sounds like we can have a case where
>>>> a Registry Client serves as a Registry Server or as an intermediate
>>>> point between the Web Browser and Registry Server. Is it possible?
>>>>
>>>
>>> What I had in mind was something that reflected the case (we have such a
>>> case in freebXML Registry implementation) where a web browser is used to
>>> access a JSP/Servlet based web based User Interface (thin UI). The thin
>>> UI is the actual Registry Client and talks to the registry interfaces
>>> using SOAP over HTTP or HTTP/S.
>>>
>>> Maybe in that case it is misleading to call the Web Browser a Registry
>>> Client? How should we capture the case I am trying to convey?
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Regards,
>>> Farrukh
>>>
>>>
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>
> -- 
> Regards,
> Farrukh
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