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Subject: Meeting minutes


Attached are the meeting minutes from 8-18-05.  Thanks Joe!

 <<Registry TC - Minutes of 08-18-05 Conference Call.txt>> 


Kathryn Breininger
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OASIS ebXML REGISTRY TC CALL MINUTES - 08/18/05

AGENDA:
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1. Approval of previous meeting minutes
2. Minute taker
3. The main item of discussion will be the webinar, which is scheduled for Sept 14th at 6:00 pm Pacific Time, and September 15th at 11:00 am ET (8:00 am PT).  Please review the draft materials prior to the meeting.
I will need to leave the meeting at about 8:50, so please join promptly so we have time for lots of discussion and review of the webinar presentation. 
4. Other issues, items
5. Next meeting.

ATTENDEES:
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Ivan Bedini		France Telecom
Monica Martin		Sun Microsystems
Carl Mattocks		Individual
Farrukh Najmi		Sun Microsystems
Kathryn Breininger	The Boeing Company
Joseph Chiusano		Booz Allen Hamilton
Nikola Stojanovic	GS1


MEETING NOTES:
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AGENDA ITEM #1: Approval of previous meeting minutes

- Previous meeting minutes temporarily missing - not approved

- ACTION ITEM[Kathryn]: Find previous meeting minutes and send to TC


AGENDA ITEM #2: Minute taker

- Joe Chiusano to take minutes


AGENDA ITEM #3: The main item of discussion will be the webinar, which is scheduled for Sept 14th at 6:00 pm Pacific Time, and September 15th at 11:00 am ET (8:00 am PT).  Please review the draft materials prior to the meeting.


- Carl walked the TC through the latest version of the slides; he began by reading the agenda

- We will focus on first 20 slides for the webinar, and add some use cases

- Carl will narrate the first 20 slides, then Farrukh will do a live demonstration

- This will be followed by a Q&A session and summary

- Carl read the definition and purposes of ebXML Registry (slide 3)

  * TC agreed with stated content

- Slide 4: Carl will need to emphasize difference between metadata and data

  * Carl: "Metadata instance describes a content instance, or a metadata instance"

  * Monica: Better to say "content or another metadata instance" - good

	- Joe: Suggested a way to simplify the ideas - all content is data, but may be used as metadata (e.g. XML schema)

	- Nikola recommended staying away from the distinction between metadata and data for content, for simplicity purpoess
		
  	  * However, we should make a distinction between metadata in the registry, and content (data) in therepository

	- Joe: We can describe the "registry vs. repository" concept
	
 	  * Then, if appropriate, describe how some data in the repository may be used as metadata 

  * ACTION ITEM[Carl]: Tweak slide 4 for the above and send to TC for comment

- Slide 5: Carl will need to emphasize difference between metadata and data

  * Monica, on non-dependency on other ebXML specs: Recommends saying "can be used with other ebXML artifacts", or "is independent of X", or "neutral", as current wording can be perceived as negative

	- Others agreed

	- Monica recommends "ebXML Registry is more than..." - we can say it stores all sorts of artifacts, including ebXML artifacts
		
	  * So it doesn't sound like we are trying to disassociate ourselves from ebXML

	- ebXML Registry can support design and run-time use

  	  * It can be used with many other specs, including [list them on slide]

	  * It serves many purposes, complements, etc.

  * ACTION ITEM[Carl]: Update slide 5 for the above 

- Slide 6 comments:

  * Some felt that use of term "API" is too narrow

  * Use of term "protocols" - what aspect? Description of SOAP/HTTP, or "how to"'s (such as host redirect, etc).

  * Joe: Change this to refer to "interfaces and technical protocols" - better for business-level understanding

  * Monica: Separate the ISO 15000 standards (RIM and RS)

  * ACTION ITEM[Carl]: Update slide 6 for the above 

- Slide 7 comments:

  * Carl: Will add CCTS as a use case (Ivan clarified)

  * Joe: Remove multiple references to "X registry", "Y registry",etc. - may give incorrect impression that the registry wears too many hats, and must reconfigure for each use

  * Kathryn: Also emphasize that these are just examples - there are more

  * ACTION ITEM[Carl]: Update slide 7 for the above 

- Slide 8:

  * Carl asked Ivan if we should add CCTS profile? Ivan: yes

	- Ivan is working on this profile - he has released a draft that is waiting for comment

  * Monica: Say "current examples of profiles include", instead of repeating "profiles" for each instance of a profile

  * Joe: Reverse profile definition points - describe what the profile is first

  * Monica: Should not say "interoperability within a domain" - may cross domains

  * Joe: Should simplify definition to not reference extensibility and restriction

	- Suggestion: "A profile defines a particular use of ebXML Registry", etc. (better for business-level understanding)

	- Farrukh joined the call at this point

	- Suggested Updated wording: "Defines requirements for implementing ebXML Registry within a particular business context"

	- Farrukh added that it defines rules

	- Farrukh also likes the reference to restrictions and extensions - so that everyone restricts and extends the spec in the same way - each vertical can have their own extensions/restrictions

	- Joe: Likes the phrase "in the same way" (or "in a standard way") - a key point

	- Carl: Likes "rules" instead of "restrictions/extensions"

	- Farrukh: That will work, even though rules may mean policies - which are only part of defining the restrictions/extensions

	  * A profile will contain policies

	- Monica suggested using "scope" or "constraints", and to put these words in ()s
	
	- Farrukh: First preference is "restriction/extension", second preference is "rules"

	- Carl: Recommends leaving "restriction/extension" to appendix, and incorporating the word "constraint"

	- Farrukh is not comfortable with the term "constraint" - it's not drastically different than "restriction/extension"

	  * Farrukh recommends only "rules" as an alternate choice
			
	- Ivan does not like "rules"
				
	- Carl likes "requirements"

	- Farrukh: You can say "requirements and rules"

	- ACTION ITEM[Carl]: Initiate e-mail with different choices and get feedback from TC

	- Kathryn left the call at this point

  * Kathryn: Ivan and Farrukh will set up call numbers

	- Ivan pointed out that it will be 3am where he lives; he recommends changing the time

	- ACTION ITEM[Kathryn]: Talk to Carol Geyer about changing time

  * Carl read examples

	- Farrukh: HL7 has a particular group working on this - recommends striking it or getting someone to clarify
		
- Slide 9 - WSS:

  * Farrukh: Need to include governance on this slide

	- Enforcement of organizational policies *is* governance

	- Registry enables governance of service artifacts

  * Carl and Farrukh agreed to only have 2nd picture

 	- ACTION ITEM[Farrukh]: Consider updating slide to emphasize governance more, and revisit WS definition

 	- May also drop slide 10

- Slide 12 - Government information management use:

  * Slide 13 shows figure with Gov of Canada pilot (Pan-Canadian Registry Pilot)

  * ACTION ITEM[Farrukh]: Get Canada's review and approval to use their information in slides

  * E-Gov applications - need to talk only about one or 2 of them (Farrukh will cover this slide)

- Slide 16 (Key Benefits) - to slide 20:
 
  * Carl: Is this where we want to end?

  * Joe recommended moving features to an earlier slide

  	- Farrukh: No, we need use cases, etc.

  * Farrukh: Slide 18 will be a backdrop for demo

  	- Will show some examples of these items

  * Carl will talk about benefits, then will end at features table (slide 18-19)

  * Then demo

  * Then review features table - emphasize certain ones

  * ACTION ITEM[Carl]: Update slides 1-18; 19-on are ok as is

  * Farrukh: Also need say what immediate next steps are

  * Key areas we want to focus on next - see "Future Direction" at end (slide 63-ish)

  * Interoperability testing - does not require a particular spec (Farrukh)

  * Next level: Have conformance specs for interoperability - interoperability is then greatly improved

  * Additional profiles

	- Farrukh: SCM is the big ticket item for this

	- Carl: Tell audience that we are focusing on more profiles, and they should give us ex's of profiles they need

  * Farrukh: Slide 64 is key slide (wrapup)

  * Carl: Post-demo will include slides 19, 20, 63, and 64	

  * Farrukh: If short on time, can refer them to slide for What's New in 3.0, then focus on future directions and summary

	- Farrukh will do all 4 of these slides

	
AGENDA ITEM #4: Other issues, items

- None; adjourned.

AGENDA ITEM #5. Next meeting:

- 2 weeks.


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