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Subject: Re: [regrep] Title suggestion for Webinar
David, With due respects, my main point based on seven years of intense and focused practical deployment experience with regrep is that regrep's main purpose in life is as a "System of Record" and that is not "just one isolated use case for Registry". I believe that is true in "geospatial coordination, secure patient record federation, semantic XML content, document cataloguing, and so on". I made it clear in my original suggestion that I will make it clear during the presentation that RegRep's uses are way more than SOA. However, SOA is the focus of our presentation as I recall to be agreed by the TC. Therefor with due respects, I still feel the following is the best title: " OASIS ebXML Registry and Repository The System of Record for SOA Governace " If necessary, I am willing to live with: " OASIS ebXML Registry and Repository The System of Record for SOA Deployments " David RR Webber (XML) wrote: > Farrukh, > My point is that "system of record" is just one isolated use case for > Registry. > I see that registry is being used for geospatial coordination, secure > patient record federation, semantic XML content, document cataloguing, > and so on. > The SOA system of record is IMHO way too narrow here. The ebxml > registry is not just a UDDI look-a-like for SOA as its main purpose... > Of course the real SOA use case here is articulated by OASIS BCM > spec's and registry model - but then we'd have to explain BCM first ; -) > Anyway - you all are doing the present not me - I guess next time I > can sign up to do > "ebXML Registry - Beyond SOA System of Record" > ; -) > DW > > "The way to be is to do" - Confucius (551-472 B.C.) > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [regrep] Title suggestion for Webinar > From: "Farrukh S. Najmi" <farrukh@wellfleetsoftware.com> > Date: Sat, May 12, 2007 1:32 pm > To: "David RR Webber (XML)" <david@drrw.info> > Cc: ebXML Regrep <regrep@lists.oasis-open.org> > > > Based on my customer experience, Governance is the most pressing > need in SOA today > and fortunately that is precisely where RegRep helps the most. > > "Enabling" is too fuzzy and does not capture the central role that > RegRep plays in SOA which is > that it is "The System of Record" for SOA deployments. My wife > acuses me of being an "enabler" > for my children's delinquencies ;-) > > You can see that point being drilled home by practically anyone > who is selling a SOA Repository: > > > Infravio: > "Create a *system of record* for your SOA metadata – policies, > schema, .docs, performance *..." > *<http://www1.webmethods.com/PDF/datasheets/Infravio_X-Registry_Datasheet.pdf>* > > *Systinet:* > *"Systinet provides the “*system of record*” for SOA and *...* > Must provide the “*system* *of record*”" > <http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/17235/Systinet%20Registry%20NASA%20Presentation%203-15-06.pdf> > > IBM WSRR: > "In this context, *WSRR* handles the metadata management aspects > of operational services and provides the *system of record* of > these metadata artefacts " > <http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/sr/v6r0/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.sr.doc/cwsr_overview_overview04.html> > > BEA: > "The BEA AquaLogic Service Registry, through an embedded > governance framework, acts as a central location for managing the > services life cycle. It makes an SOA more transparent by serving > as the *system of record* where services..." > <http://files.shareholder.com/downloads/BEAS/124821163x0x84099/9502bab0-de1a-4a7c-b20a-292459a97a24/q3BEA%20At%20A%20Glance.pdf> > "It provides a *system-of-record* for these policies and is used > to define and enforce business policies. enlarge. AquaLogic > Service *Registry* is employed *..."* > <http://es.bea.com/products/aqualogic/service_registry> > > Oracle: > "leverage *Oracle* Service *Registry* to publish and advertise > services and enable *...* It also serves as the *System of Record* > for all. " > <http://www.oracle.com/technologies/soa/oracle-soa-suite-datasheet.pdf > > > > Tibco: > "TIBCO ActiveMatrix *Registry* is a standards-. based *system of > record* for discovering, *...*" > <http://www.tibco.com/resources/software/soa/ds_activematrix_*registry*.pdf> > > Actional: > "A SOA *system of record*, or *registry*, is designed to be a > central holding place for information about service consumers, > providers, policies, *...*" > <http://www.actional.com/resources/webinars/SOA-Lifecycle/SOA-System.html > > > > IONA: > "Artix *Registry*/Repository enables customers to design, build, > deploy and manage a network of business services by providing a > complete *system of record* of *...**"* > <http://www.iona.com/pressroom/2007/20070326.htm > > > SOA Software: > "All SOA Software products rely on an underlying UDDIv3 *Registry* > as a core repository and *system of record* for service data. The > product are all fully *..." > <*www.soa.com/index.php/section/products/*registry*_manager/> > > > For this reason I feel *very strongly* about "The System of > Record" part of the title as that is precisely the role of RegRep > in SOA. > > If the term "governance" is an issue then how about: > > " > OASIS ebXML Registry and Repository > The System of Record for SOA Deployments > " > > Thanks. > > David RR Webber (XML) wrote: >> Farrukh, >> You need something catchy, short and to the point - >> OASIS ebXML Registry Repository - enabling SOA solutions >> Since OASIS is the sponsor - no need to muddy the waters with >> inserting ISO too. >> Also - the aim should be to catch peoples interest - and have >> them attend - not drive them away!!! >> So your title is to specific - what if the reader thinks - "huh - >> my business needs are nothing to do with "governance" - my CFO >> just wants me to help sales of more widgets". >> Perhaps I do need to understand possible "SOA solutions" for that. >> Think marketing - not technobabble ; -) >> DW >> >> "The way to be is to do" - Confucius (551-472 B.C.) >> >> >> -------- Original Message -------- >> Subject: Re: [regrep] Title suggestion for Webinar >> From: "Farrukh S. Najmi" <farrukh@wellfleetsoftware.com> >> Date: Fri, May 11, 2007 3:48 pm >> To: "David RR Webber (XML)" <david@drrw.info> >> Cc: ebXML Regrep <regrep@lists.oasis-open.org> >> >> What exactly is a "Service Oriented Arcitecture Architectures" and how >> is it better than >> "Service Oriented Arcitecture"? >> >> >> David RR Webber (XML) wrote: >> > Farrukh, >> > >> > Seems to pigeon hole you too much. >> > >> > What about - "OASIS ebXML Registry Repository - enabling SOA >> > architectures. >> > >> > DW >> > >> > "The way to be is to do" - Confucius (551-472 B.C.) >> > >> > >> > -------- Original Message -------- >> > Subject: [regrep] Title suggestion for Webinar >> > From: "Farrukh S. Najmi" <farrukh@wellfleetsoftware.com <#Compose>> >> > Date: Fri, May 11, 2007 12:39 pm >> > To: ebXML Regrep <regrep@lists.oasis-open.org <#Compose>> >> > >> > Dear colleagues, >> > >> > I would like to propose the following title: >> > >> > " >> > OASIS ebXML Registry and Repository >> > >> > The System of Record for SOA Governance >> > " >> > >> > Note that "Record" in prioposed title implies any type of >> information. >> > >> > This title focuses the presentation on use of RegRep as a SOA >> Repository >> > and key enabler for SOA Governance. >> > >> > We can make sure we explain upfront that RegRep can support many >> other >> > diverse use cases but that the >> > presentation will focus on this specific one to make it more >> concrete >> > for this use case. >> > >> > Please let me know what you think of the title. Also is it too >> late for >> > us to change to Webinar title to match whatever we decide? >> > >> > Carl, Nikola and I will work on the draft slides and plan to >> have an >> > initial slide deck for team review by next TC meeting. >> > Nikola and I got start on this earlier this week. Thanks. >> > >> > -- >> > Regards, >> > Farrukh >> > >> > Web: http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com <http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com/> >> <http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com/> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> -- >> Regards, >> Farrukh >> >> Web: http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com <http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com/> >> >> >> >> > > > -- > Regards, > Farrukh > > Web: http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com > > > -- Regards, Farrukh Web: http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com
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