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Subject: Re: [regrep] Title suggestion for Webinar
David RR Webber (XML) wrote: > Farrukh, > On review this morning seems like we have a Gartner magic quadrant in > the making here around this term "system of record" solutions - no > point in knocking on whether this is a good term or not - if Gartner > et al have spoken then I guess we have to embrace and extend! This is good news. Can you please send any links to that. Thanks for sharing. I did use the "System of Record" term with them and other analysts when I briefed them on Sun Service Registry a couple of years back. > My worry was that the average person would not have much sense of what > this term implies - and be turned off - but if the CIOs/CTOs are being > indoctrinated on it - then the baton is then over to us to explain the > complete picture from our perspective - and the value add. I agree. Many people now understand this term at least at a high level. I think we can provide a complete picture during the course of the presentation. Thanks for the valuable input. > Cheers, DW > > "The way to be is to do" - Confucius (551-472 B.C.) > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [regrep] Title suggestion for Webinar > From: "Farrukh S. Najmi" <farrukh@wellfleetsoftware.com> > Date: Sat, May 12, 2007 6:54 pm > To: "David RR Webber (XML)" <david@drrw.info> > Cc: ebXML Regrep <regrep@lists.oasis-open.org> > > David, > > With due respects, my main point based on seven years of intense and > focused practical deployment experience with regrep is that regrep's > main purpose in life is as a "System of Record" and that is not "just > one isolated use case for Registry". I believe that is true in > "geospatial coordination, secure patient record federation, semantic XML > content, document cataloguing, and so on". > > I made it clear in my original suggestion that I will make it clear > during the presentation that RegRep's uses are way more than SOA. > However, SOA is the focus of our presentation as I recall to be agreed > by the TC. > > Therefor with due respects, I still feel the following is the best title: > > " > OASIS ebXML Registry and Repository > The System of Record for SOA Governace > " > > If necessary, I am willing to live with: > > " > OASIS ebXML Registry and Repository > The System of Record for SOA Deployments > " > > David RR Webber (XML) wrote: > > Farrukh, > > My point is that "system of record" is just one isolated use case for > > Registry. > > I see that registry is being used for geospatial coordination, secure > > patient record federation, semantic XML content, document cataloguing, > > and so on. > > The SOA system of record is IMHO way too narrow here. The ebxml > > registry is not just a UDDI look-a-like for SOA as its main purpose... > > Of course the real SOA use case here is articulated by OASIS BCM > > spec's and registry model - but then we'd have to explain BCM first > ; -) > > Anyway - you all are doing the present not me - I guess next time I > > can sign up to do > > "ebXML Registry - Beyond SOA System of Record" > > ; -) > > DW > > > > "The way to be is to do" - Confucius (551-472 B.C.) > > > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > Subject: Re: [regrep] Title suggestion for Webinar > > From: "Farrukh S. Najmi" <farrukh@wellfleetsoftware.com <#Compose>> > > Date: Sat, May 12, 2007 1:32 pm > > To: "David RR Webber (XML)" <david@drrw.info <#Compose>> > > Cc: ebXML Regrep <regrep@lists.oasis-open.org <#Compose>> > > > > > > Based on my customer experience, Governance is the most pressing > > need in SOA today > > and fortunately that is precisely where RegRep helps the most. > > > > "Enabling" is too fuzzy and does not capture the central role that > > RegRep plays in SOA which is > > that it is "The System of Record" for SOA deployments. My wife > > acuses me of being an "enabler" > > for my children's delinquencies ;-) > > > > You can see that point being drilled home by practically anyone > > who is selling a SOA Repository: > > > > > > Infravio: > > "Create a *system of record* for your SOA metadata – policies, > > schema, .docs, performance *..." > > *<http://www1.webmethods.com/PDF/datasheets/Infravio_X-Registry_Datasheet.pdf>* > > > > *Systinet:* > > *"Systinet provides the “*system of record*” for SOA and *...* > > Must provide the “*system* *of record*”" > > <http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/17235/Systinet%20Registry%20NASA%20Presentation%203-15-06.pdf> > > > > IBM WSRR: > > "In this context, *WSRR* handles the metadata management aspects > > of operational services and provides the *system of record* of > > these metadata artefacts " > > <http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/sr/v6r0/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.sr.doc/cwsr_overview_overview04.html> > > > > BEA: > > "The BEA AquaLogic Service Registry, through an embedded > > governance framework, acts as a central location for managing the > > services life cycle. It makes an SOA more transparent by serving > > as the *system of record* where services..." > > <http://files.shareholder.com/downloads/BEAS/124821163x0x84099/9502bab0-de1a-4a7c-b20a-292459a97a24/q3BEA%20At%20A%20Glance.pdf> > > "It provides a *system-of-record* for these policies and is used > > to define and enforce business policies. enlarge. AquaLogic > > Service *Registry* is employed *..."* > > <http://es.bea.com/products/aqualogic/service_registry> > > > > Oracle: > > "leverage *Oracle* Service *Registry* to publish and advertise > > services and enable *...* It also serves as the *System of Record* > > for all. " > > <http://www.oracle.com/technologies/soa/oracle-soa-suite-datasheet.pdf > > > > > > > Tibco: > > "TIBCO ActiveMatrix *Registry* is a standards-. based *system of > > record* for discovering, *...*" > > <http://www.tibco.com/resources/software/soa/ds_activematrix_*registry*.pdf> > > > > Actional: > > "A SOA *system of record*, or *registry*, is designed to be a > > central holding place for information about service consumers, > > providers, policies, *...*" > > <http://www.actional.com/resources/webinars/SOA-Lifecycle/SOA-System.html > > > > > > > IONA: > > "Artix *Registry*/Repository enables customers to design, build, > > deploy and manage a network of business services by providing a > > complete *system of record* of *...**"* > > <http://www.iona.com/pressroom/2007/20070326.htm > > > > > SOA Software: > > "All SOA Software products rely on an underlying UDDIv3 *Registry* > > as a core repository and *system of record* for service data. The > > product are all fully *..." > > <*www.soa.com/index.php/section/products/*registry*_manager/ <http://www.soa.com/index.php/section/products/*registry*_manager/>> > > > > > > For this reason I feel *very strongly* about "The System of > > Record" part of the title as that is precisely the role of RegRep > > in SOA. > > > > If the term "governance" is an issue then how about: > > > > " > > OASIS ebXML Registry and Repository > > The System of Record for SOA Deployments > > " > > > > Thanks. > > > > David RR Webber (XML) wrote: > >> Farrukh, > >> You need something catchy, short and to the point - > >> OASIS ebXML Registry Repository - enabling SOA solutions > >> Since OASIS is the sponsor - no need to muddy the waters with > >> inserting ISO too. > >> Also - the aim should be to catch peoples interest - and have > >> them attend - not drive them away!!! > >> So your title is to specific - what if the reader thinks - "huh - > >> my business needs are nothing to do with "governance" - my CFO > >> just wants me to help sales of more widgets". > >> Perhaps I do need to understand possible "SOA solutions" for that. > >> Think marketing - not technobabble ; -) > >> DW > >> > >> "The way to be is to do" - Confucius (551-472 B.C.) > >> > >> > >> -------- Original Message -------- > >> Subject: Re: [regrep] Title suggestion for Webinar > >> From: "Farrukh S. Najmi" <farrukh@wellfleetsoftware.com <#Compose>> > >> Date: Fri, May 11, 2007 3:48 pm > >> To: "David RR Webber (XML)" <david@drrw.info <#Compose>> > >> Cc: ebXML Regrep <regrep@lists.oasis-open.org <#Compose>> > >> > >> What exactly is a "Service Oriented Arcitecture > Architectures" and how > >> is it better than > >> "Service Oriented Arcitecture"? > >> > >> > >> David RR Webber (XML) wrote: > >> > Farrukh, > >> > > >> > Seems to pigeon hole you too much. > >> > > >> > What about - "OASIS ebXML Registry Repository - enabling SOA > >> > architectures. > >> > > >> > DW > >> > > >> > "The way to be is to do" - Confucius (551-472 B.C.) > >> > > >> > > >> > -------- Original Message -------- > >> > Subject: [regrep] Title suggestion for Webinar > >> > From: "Farrukh S. Najmi" > <farrukh@wellfleetsoftware.com <#Compose> <#Compose>> > >> > Date: Fri, May 11, 2007 12:39 pm > >> > To: ebXML Regrep <regrep@lists.oasis-open.org <#Compose> > <#Compose>> > >> > > >> > Dear colleagues, > >> > > >> > I would like to propose the following title: > >> > > >> > " > >> > OASIS ebXML Registry and Repository > >> > > >> > The System of Record for SOA Governance > >> > " > >> > > >> > Note that "Record" in prioposed title implies any > type of > >> information. > >> > > >> > This title focuses the presentation on use of RegRep > as a SOA > >> Repository > >> > and key enabler for SOA Governance. > >> > > >> > We can make sure we explain upfront that RegRep can > support many > >> other > >> > diverse use cases but that the > >> > presentation will focus on this specific one to make > it more > >> concrete > >> > for this use case. > >> > > >> > Please let me know what you think of the title. Also > is it too > >> late for > >> > us to change to Webinar title to match whatever we > decide? > >> > > >> > Carl, Nikola and I will work on the draft slides and > plan to > >> have an > >> > initial slide deck for team review by next TC meeting. > >> > Nikola and I got start on this earlier this week. > Thanks. > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Regards, > >> > Farrukh > >> > > >> > Web: http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com <http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com/> > <http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com/> > >> <http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com/> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Regards, > >> Farrukh > >> > >> Web: http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com <http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com/> > <http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com/> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > Regards, > > Farrukh > > > > Web: http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com <http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com/> > > > > > > > > > -- > Regards, > Farrukh > > Web: http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com <http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com/> > > > > -- Regards, Farrukh Web: http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com
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