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Subject: RE: [regrep] Title suggestion for Webinar
- From: "Breininger, Kathryn R" <kathryn.r.breininger@boeing.com>
- To: "Carl Mattocks" <cmattocks@metlife.com>
- Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 12:12:16 -0700
Do we have opinions on the last two
proposals:
ebXML Registry and Repository: adoption, applications and
SOA deployments
ebXML Registry and
Repository: SOA, applications,
deployments and
governance |
Kathryn Breininger
Boeing Library Services
425-965-0182 phone
Since the word has already got out
... the title should highlight the proposed content
ebXML Registry and Repository:SOA,
applications, deployments and governance
OASIS
ebXML Registry v3.0 Standard Overview.
The > ebXML Registry Standard provides the
functionality needed for > governance and management of electronic
artifacts for SOA > deployments; it has been adopted and
deployed in vertical > industries including government, health
care, geospatial, > telecommunications, banking, and
finance. |
|
|
|
Carl Mattocks
Consultant : ITIL Application
Knowledge Management
MetLife 732 893 4170
'Always look on the bright
side of life' Monty Python
"Breininger, Kathryn R"
<kathryn.r.breininger@boeing.com>
05/14/2007 09:55 AM
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To
| "Farrukh S. Najmi"
<farrukh@wellfleetsoftware.com>, "David RR Webber (XML)"
<david@drrw.info>
|
cc
| "ebXML Regrep"
<regrep@lists.oasis-open.org>
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Subject
| RE: [regrep] Title suggestion for
Webinar |
|
Actually, our original title and abstract got cut down to where I
think
we have lost a bit of what we originally intended. Originally, we
wanted
to emphasize implementations and adoption, partly due to the
recent
analyst reports etc that seemed to imply no one is using ebXML.
Our
original title was: "OASIS ebXML Registry v3.0 Standards:
Overview,
adoption, applications, and profiles". SOA was only part of
what we
wanted to cover. The key messages we wanted to get across
were
(http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/regrep/email/archives/2007
03/msg00020.html):
Key messages:
ebXML Registry is:
l
Being widely adopted and implemented in various
industry
segments and standards, ebXML Registry broadly applicable as
an
important infrastructure component, used in ebXML environments,
SOA
platforms, other broad domains/spectrums
l
Numerous Profiles completed and in work (web
services, ontology,
etc), takes advantage of extensibility
And we were
planning to include a brief demo. I would like to try to
maintain some
of our original intention, as I believe implementation,
adoption and where
and how to use are key to getting others interested
in ebXML Registry.
We do definitely need to try to get something back into the
title!!
Would this work:
ebXML Registry and Repository: adoption,
applications and SOA
deployments
(trying a compromise here!)
:-)
Kathryn Breininger
Boeing Library
Services
425-965-0182 phone
-----Original
Message-----
From: Farrukh S. Najmi [mailto:farrukh@wellfleetsoftware.com]
Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 3:55 PM
To: David RR Webber (XML)
Cc:
ebXML Regrep
Subject: Re: [regrep] Title suggestion for
Webinar
David,
With due respects, my main point based on seven
years of intense and
focused practical deployment experience with regrep is
that regrep's
main purpose in life is as a "System of Record" and that is not
"just
one isolated use case for Registry". I believe that is true
in
"geospatial coordination, secure patient record federation, semantic
XML
content, document cataloguing, and so on".
I made it clear in my
original suggestion that I will make it clear
during the presentation that
RegRep's uses are way more than SOA.
However, SOA is the focus of our
presentation as I recall to be agreed
by the TC.
Therefor with due
respects, I still feel the following is the best
title:
"
OASIS
ebXML Registry and Repository
The System of Record for SOA
Governace
"
If necessary, I am willing to live with:
"
OASIS
ebXML Registry and Repository
The System of Record for SOA Deployments
"
David RR Webber (XML) wrote:
> Farrukh,
> My point is that
"system of record" is just one isolated use case for
> Registry.
>
I see that registry is being used for geospatial coordination, secure
>
patient record federation, semantic XML content, document
cataloguing,
> and so on.
> The SOA system of record is IMHO way
too narrow here. The ebxml
> registry is not just a UDDI look-a-like for
SOA as its main purpose...
> Of course the real SOA use case here is
articulated by OASIS BCM
> spec's and registry model - but then we'd have
to explain BCM first ;
> -) Anyway - you all are doing the present not me
- I guess next time I
> can sign up to do "ebXML Registry - Beyond SOA
System of Record"
> ; -)
> DW
>
> "The way to be is to
do" - Confucius (551-472 B.C.)
>
>
> --------
Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [regrep] Title
suggestion for Webinar
> From: "Farrukh S. Najmi"
<farrukh@wellfleetsoftware.com>
> Date: Sat, May 12,
2007 1:32 pm
> To: "David RR Webber (XML)"
<david@drrw.info>
> Cc: ebXML Regrep
<regrep@lists.oasis-open.org>
>
>
> Based
on my customer experience, Governance is the most pressing
>
need in SOA today
> and fortunately that is precisely where
RegRep helps the most.
>
> "Enabling" is too fuzzy and
does not capture the central role that
> RegRep plays in SOA
which is
> that it is "The System of Record" for SOA
deployments. My wife
> acuses me of being an
"enabler"
> for my children's delinquencies
;-)
>
> You can see that point being drilled home by
practically anyone
> who is selling a SOA
Repository:
>
>
> Infravio:
>
"Create a *system of record* for your SOA metadata - policies,
>
schema, .docs, performance *..."
>
>
*<http://www1.webmethods.com/PDF/datasheets/Infravio_X-Registry_Datash
>
eet.pdf>*
>
> *Systinet:*
>
*"Systinet provides the "*system of record*" for SOA and *...*
>
Must provide the "*system* *of record*""
>
>
<http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/17235/Systinet%20Re
>
gistry%20NASA%20Presentation%203-15-06.pdf>
>
> IBM
WSRR:
> "In this context, *WSRR* handles the metadata
management aspects
> of operational services and provides
the *system of record* of
> these metadata artefacts
"
>
>
<http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/sr/v6r0/index.jsp?topic=/com
>
.ibm.sr.doc/cwsr_overview_overview04.html>
>
>
BEA:
> "The BEA AquaLogic Service Registry, through an
embedded
> governance framework, acts as a central location
for managing the
> services life cycle. It makes an SOA more
transparent by serving
> as the *system of record* where
services..."
>
<http://files.shareholder.com/downloads/BEAS/124821163x0x84099/9502bab0-
de1a-4a7c-b20a-292459a97a24/q3BEA%20At%20A%20Glance.pdf>
>
"It provides a *system-of-record* for these policies and is
used
> to define and enforce business policies. enlarge.
AquaLogic
> Service *Registry* is employed *..."*
>
<http://es.bea.com/products/aqualogic/service_registry>
>
>
Oracle:
> "leverage *Oracle* Service
*Registry* to publish and advertise
> services and enable
*...* It also serves as the *System of Record*
> for all.
"
>
<http://www.oracle.com/technologies/soa/oracle-soa-suite-datasheet.pdf
>
>
>
> Tibco:
>
"TIBCO ActiveMatrix *Registry* is a standards-. based *system of
>
record* for discovering, *...*"
>
>
<http://www.tibco.com/resources/software/soa/ds_activematrix_*registry
>
*.pdf>
>
> Actional:
> "A SOA
*system of record*, or *registry*, is designed to be a
>
central holding place for information about service consumers,
>
providers, policies,
*...*"
>
<http://www.actional.com/resources/webinars/SOA-Lifecycle/SOA-System.htm
l
>
>
>
> IONA:
>
"Artix *Registry*/Repository enables customers to design, build,
>
deploy and manage a network of business services by providing a
>
complete *system of record* of *...**"*
>
<http://www.iona.com/pressroom/2007/20070326.htm >
>
>
SOA Software:
> "All SOA Software products rely on an
underlying UDDIv3 *Registry*
> as a core repository and
*system of record* for service data. The
> product are all
fully *..."
>
<*www.soa.com/index.php/section/products/*registry*_manager/>
>
>
>
For this reason I feel *very strongly* about "The System
of
> Record" part of the title as that is precisely the role
of RegRep
> in SOA.
>
> If the
term "governance" is an issue then how about:
>
>
"
> OASIS ebXML Registry and Repository
>
The System of Record for SOA Deployments
>
"
>
> Thanks.
>
> David RR
Webber (XML) wrote:
>> Farrukh,
>>
You need something catchy, short and to the point -
>>
OASIS ebXML Registry Repository - enabling SOA solutions
>>
Since OASIS is the sponsor - no need to muddy the waters with
>>
inserting ISO too.
>> Also - the aim should
be to catch peoples interest - and have
>> them attend -
not drive them away!!!
>> So your title is to specific -
what if the reader thinks - "huh -
>> my business needs
are nothing to do with "governance" - my CFO
>> just
wants me to help sales of more widgets".
>> Perhaps I do
need to understand possible "SOA solutions" for
that.
>>
Think marketing - not technobabble ; -)
>>
DW
>>
>> "The way to be is to do" - Confucius
(551-472 B.C.)
>>
>>
>>
-------- Original Message --------
>>
Subject: Re: [regrep] Title suggestion for Webinar
>>
From: "Farrukh S. Najmi"
<farrukh@wellfleetsoftware.com>
>>
Date: Fri, May 11, 2007 3:48 pm
>> To:
"David RR Webber (XML)" <david@drrw.info>
>>
Cc: ebXML Regrep
<regrep@lists.oasis-open.org>
>>
>>
What exactly is a "Service Oriented Arcitecture
Architectures" and
how
>> is it better than
>>
"Service Oriented
Arcitecture"?
>>
>>
>>
David RR Webber (XML) wrote:
>> >
Farrukh,
>> >
>>
> Seems to pigeon hole you too much.
>>
>
>> >
What about - "OASIS ebXML Registry Repository - enabling
SOA
>>
> architectures.
>>
>
>> > DW
>>
>
>> >
"The way to be is to do" - Confucius (551-472 B.C.)
>>
>
>> >
>>
> -------- Original Message
--------
>> > Subject:
[regrep] Title suggestion for Webinar
>>
> From: "Farrukh S. Najmi"
<farrukh@wellfleetsoftware.com
<#Compose>>
>>
> Date: Fri, May 11, 2007 12:39
pm
>> > To: ebXML Regrep
<regrep@lists.oasis-open.org
<#Compose>>
>>
>
>> >
Dear colleagues,
>> >
>>
> I would like to propose the
following title:
>> >
>>
> "
>>
> OASIS ebXML Registry and Repository
>>
>
>> >
The System of Record for SOA Governance
>>
> "
>>
>
>> > Note that
"Record" in prioposed title implies any type
of
>>
information.
>>
>
>> > This title
focuses the presentation on use of RegRep as
a SOA
>>
Repository
>> >
and key enabler for SOA Governance.
>>
>
>> > We can
make sure we explain upfront that RegRep can
support many
>>
other
>> >
diverse use cases but that the
>>
> presentation will focus on this specific one to make
it
more
>> concrete
>>
> for this use case.
>>
>
>> >
Please let me know what you think of the title. Also is
it
too
>> late for
>>
> us to change to Webinar title to match whatever
we
decide?
>> >
>>
> Carl, Nikola and I will work on the
draft slides and
plan to
>> have
an
>> > initial slide deck
for team review by next TC meeting.
>> >
Nikola and I got start on this earlier this
week.
Thanks.
>> >
>>
> --
>>
> Regards,
>> >
Farrukh
>> >
>>
> Web:
http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com
<http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com/>
>>
<http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com/>
>>
>
>> >
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>>
>>
--
>> Regards,
>>
Farrukh
>>
>>
Web: http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com
>>
<http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com/>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
--
> Regards,
>
Farrukh
>
> Web:
http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com
>
>
>
--
Regards,
Farrukh
Web:
http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com
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