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Subject: RE: Attribute defaults


Yes, honestly, simplicity is at the heart of the matter. AFAIK, we only have
one element and one attribute in mind so far. If approved by the TC, the
element will be a documentation element to provide a consistent way to
document patterns, something beyond an XML 1.0 comment! And an attribute to
annotate an element or attribute with a default value, because RELAX NG will
not get into the business of augmenting the infoset and, if I understand
James, we don't want have to code or force implementers to code complex
restrictions on determinism
(http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/relax-ng/200106/msg00213.html). That's
all we have in mind at the moment, but perhaps other stuff will come
up. -Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Robin Cover [mailto:robin@isogen.com]
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 3:11 PM
To: Michael Fitzgerald
Cc: RNG List
Subject: RE: Attribute defaults


Oh, heck, go for generality, but be honest:

(reserved)

<rnga:cheatMode>
{all the crufty hazardous stuff too 'complex' for RELAX NG
 which needs to be modeled for some purposes, but which would
 potentially diminish bragging claims WRT RELAX NG's putative simplicity}
</>

;-)

-r

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On Mon, 25 Jun 2001, Michael Fitzgerald wrote:

> I am happy to do this, if we think a spec is necessary. Perhaps just a
> well-annotated pattern will do. Such could hold annotations (e.g.,
> <rnga:documentaion> and <rnga:defaultValue> or some such), but it might
also
> hold other ancillary markup that is outside the pale of RELAX NG proper,
> things that we haven't thought of yet. -Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jjc@jclark.com [mailto:jjc@jclark.com]
> Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2001 4:22 AM
> To: mike@wyeast.net; RNG List; Murata Makoto
> Subject: Re: Attribute defaults
>
>
> We ought to decide as a committee whether we want to produce a
> specification of a set of common annotations.  (If we do, I nominate
> Mike to write it!)
>
> ----Original Message-----
>    >From:     	Michael Fitzgerald <mike@wyeast.net>
>    >To:         	RNG List <relax-ng@lists.oasis-open.org>; Murata
> Makoto <mura034@attglobal.net>
>    >Cc:
>    >Subj:     	Re: Attribute defaults
>    >Reply To:     	mike@wyeast.net
>    >Sent:    	20 ???????? 2544 14:30
>    >
>    >Yes, this would be outside the RELAX NG spec. It would come from a
> separate namespace, as James suggested.
>    >
>    >-Mike
>    >
>    >---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>    >From: Murata Makoto <mura034@attglobal.net>
>    >Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 09:42:17 +0900
>    >
>    >>Michael Fitzgerald wrote:
>    >>
>    >>>
>    >>> Just a handful of markup for version 1.0 should prove
> sufficient to satisfy
>    >>> some important needs.
>    >>
>    >>Such markups should be separated from the spec of RELAX NG, since
> we do not
>    >>define any semantics for them.  If some spec introduces a:default
> or
>    >>a:defaultValue, the spec should define some subset of RELAX NG
> such that
>    >>grammars are unambiguous.
>    >>
>    >>Cheers,
>    >>
>    >>Makoto
>    >>
>
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