RE: [saf] TC Liaison with DMTF CMWG [PLEASE RESPOND BY 9/17]

["Lipton, Paul C" <Paul.Lipton@ca.com>]

Hi again,

That's what I get for rushing to get an action done. Much help from both Mary and Robin on the OASIS staff (and quickly too!). Apparently, we essentially provide an FYI to the OASIS President as described in the right part of the liaison policy (1). 

That said; I would say that the questions that I asked you all below to review would serve as a useful contextual explanation as to our goals and that there is no harm in our including those responses in a TC approved FYI, to the President. 

I will not be able to join the SAF meeting on 9/13, but recommend that we revamp the work register and approve the new version as a CD next week so that we can initiate a ballot to inform the OASIS President no later than the 20th. 

(1)    http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/liaison_policy.php#tcliaison

Thanks,
Paul 
 
Paul Lipton
CA Technologies
VP, Industry Standards and Open Source 
Member, CA Council for Technical Excellence 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Lipton, Paul C 
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 5:00 PM
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Subject: RE: [saf] TC Liaison with DMTF CMWG [PLEASE RESPOND BY 9/17]

Hi, Apparently, the items I wrote up aren't required by policy. That said; it probably is wise and good that they are detailed and freely commented upon (as Jeff already has done), so please feel free to comment. 

Thanks,
Paul 
 
Paul Lipton
CA Technologies
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-----Original Message-----
From: Lipton, Paul C [mailto:Paul.Lipton@ca.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 1:35 PM
To: saf@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [saf] TC Liaison with DMTF CMWG [PLEASE RESPOND BY 9/17]

Hi all, 

In reference to the Work Register document we are developing, I've taken a OASIS liaison policy (1) and I believe we need to bring our request to liaison to the President (If your reading of the policy is different please let me know.). I'd like to suggest the follow answers to the questions we are supposed to answer. Please respond with your feedback before 9/17. 

If there is no objection, around the 18th or so, I will send it off to the President along with a copy of the latest Work Register draft cc to the chairs or the entire TC, whatever folks suggest. 

Please respond with your suggestions by 9/17. I cannot attend the next SAF call. Please contact me if there are any concerns or whatever that come out of that call.

REQUEST TO OASIS PRESIDENT:
    *   Who is the other organization, what do they do, and what is the nature of the relationship suggested? (e.g. is it suggested that OASIS join the other organization and at what level, or vice versa.)
[Paul} This would be a liaison relationship between the OASIS SAF TC and the DMTF Cloud Management WG (CMWG). 

    * What are the benefits to OASIS of this relationship? What are the goals of OASIS in the relationship?
[Paul] The SAF TC is developing a Cloud-Specific Profile that will reference the interfaces and model being developed by the CMWG as predefined Actions within the SAF catalog. The DMTF may be willing to promote this joint work in a press release and elsewhere. 
    * Which particular activities (technical committees, member sections, etc.) at OASIS would be affected by the relationship? What effect will it have on them, and what level of involvement should be expected from them?
[Paul] At a high level, in addition to the identification of additional use cases that support both our models, the SAF TC hopes to obtain valuable guidance and feedback from the CMWG on the proper definitions needed for SAF Catalog Actions to align with CMWG interfaces as well as potential Symptom definitions for Cloud Providers. Additionally, we'd like to jointly produce a white paper that defines the SAF Profile and how it works with CMWG interfaces. Additional details are provided in the DMTF Work Register document draft provided. 

    * What are the benefits to the other organization of this relationship? What are the goals of the other organization in the relationship?
[Paul] SAF provides a collaborative, automation knowledge framework to the lower-level granularity of CMWG interfaces that would potentially enable SAF-aware DMTF-enabled clouds to better serve their customers, providing greater agility and business/IaaS alignment. 
    * What is the risk of negative impact on OASIS?
[Paul] Other than the usual risks of failure associated with any such technical collaboration, none are apparent. 

    * What liaison representation would OASIS be expected to send?
[Paul] The SAF TC already has several members from multiple companies that also serve in the CMWG. Liaison between the groups would be natural and easy. No additional participation from OASIS staff is required. 
    * What are the costs, obligations, and responsibilities to OASIS and/or its TCs?
[Paul] Outside of the deliverables and potentially providing a press quote, we don't see any. 




(1) http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/liaison_policy.php

Thanks,
Paul 
 
Paul Lipton
CA Technologies
VP, Industry Standards and Open Source 
Member, CA Council for Technical Excellence 
Phone (new preferred number!): +1 215 539-2731
Mobile: +1 267 987-6887
Email: paul.lipton@ca.com

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