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Subject: Re: [sarif] Re: GitHub for samples, etc [ Raw minutes of SARIF #5 meeting 2017-10-25 ]

Hi David, 

I have the TC Admin JIRA request to create the folder 'Contributions' at https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/TCADMIN-2789. Do you all want me to go ahead and create that? 

Also, let me clarify one thing. The definition of Contribution is at (https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/ipr#def-contribution). It reads "any material submitted to an OASIS Technical Committee by a TC Member in writing or electronically, whether in an in-person meeting or in any electronic conference or mailing list maintained by OASIS for the OASIS Technical Committee and which is or was proposed for inclusion in an OASIS Deliverable." (emphasis added) 

I provide this simply to note that it is fine to have a folder for Contributions but that doesn't mean anything outside that folder is *not* a Contribution. If someone sends something as an attachment to the TC mailing list, it is a valid Contribution even though it is not in that folder. 

In this case, as Paul and Katrina are *not* submitting them as proposed inclusion in the TC's work, then they aren't Contributions. If they just sent them to the TC and said "Here, use as you see fit" then they would be. 

In any case, please let me know if you would like the folder set up. 



On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 12:51 PM, David Keaton <dmk@dmk.com> wrote:
     Just to clarify, Paul and Katrina are not submitting these documents as contributions to the Working Draft.  They are giving us examples of the output of their tools.

     Kavi is fine but I actually think from a workflow perspective, given what these documents are, it is easiest if they appear in the github issue.


On 10/26/2017 09:43 AM, Mr. Stefan Hagen wrote:
Dear contributors and facilitators,

I think these are all working and easing suggestions.

Just as a side note, if this is a contribution - and I think it is ;-)
we should always be able to place it in kavi :shiver: but inside a folder
named Contributions (that exists in e.g. OData TC, but is missing (yet) on planet SARIF - I cannot create, but request this from those who can ...

The status draft is fully OK.

I will request a folder just in case, there is contributed substance that might end up in our work product and thus would require some
contributory remarks / link so OASIS can then in later stages of the process easily ensure, that IPR was always respected or "transferred"

All the best,
On 26/10/17 18:31, Robin Cover wrote:
Re David Keaton's reply to *Paul Anderson*

[ provide samples for documenting their use of markup ]

  > I would suggest appending it to the discussion of the github issue,
to make it easy for people to retrieve.  (You could submit it as a
document to the SARIF TC web site, but the most unofficial type of
document it accepts is called "Draft" which is not really what you are

1) Using the GitHub repo's comment/conversation mechanism is just fine
for collaboration; you can always use a TC discussion mailing list (or a
TC Wiki, or the TC Kavi repo), but it's your choice as to venue: they
all work

2) Any kind of content contributed as part of a TC's technical
discussion is deemed to be "at working draft */level/*", even if it is
not structured and  composed in template form with a document cover
page, etc.   So my recommendation is to not fret about templates and
style for bits and pieces that are in draft -- which may or may not be
incorporated into some formal document at some time, by document editors.

What's important?  Engagement, conversation, respectful debate, and
enjoying the dialog with other bright people.  GitHub Issues will work
for that in many cases.


- Robin

On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 10:54 AM, David Keaton <dmk@dmk.com
<mailto:dmk@dmk.com>> wrote:


           Thanks for asking!

           I would suggest appending it to the discussion of the github
     issue, to make it easy for people to retrieve.  (You could submit it
     as a document to the SARIF TC web site, but the most unofficial type
     of document it accepts is called "Draft" which is not really what
     you are submitting.)

           If you go to the comment box at the bottom of the following
     github issue, it contains a note that says you can drag and drop a
     document into a comment.



     On 10/26/2017 06:35 AM, Paul Anderson wrote:


             [20:03] Stefan: Paul and Yekatarina to provide samples for
             documenting their use of markup

         What's the preferred way of sharing this?


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