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Subject: Re: [sarif] Updated Schedule


Thanks, Katrina and Larry, for asking those questions in public. I think the discussion cleared up a lot of points for everybody.

					David

On 7/15/19 2:15 PM, Larry Golding (Myriad Consulting Inc) wrote:
Oh well. The clause is the "log file" clause, and that's obviously changed, so it's a no-go for both SATE and for MicroFocus, even if you _could_ argue that it was "their" use.

-----Original Message-----
From: sarif@lists.oasis-open.org <sarif@lists.oasis-open.org> On Behalf Of David Keaton
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2019 2:14 PM
To: sarif@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [sarif] Updated Schedule

Larry,

       A Statement of Use only applies to a Committee Specification, and we won't have one until the Special Majority Vote closes.  They would only be able to submit a valid SoU if the clause to which they conformed remains unchanged in the Committee Specification.

					David

On 7/15/19 2:10 PM, Larry Golding (Myriad Consulting Inc) wrote:
I see. And do they have to have used the very final version? Cuz they didn't. That was months ago.

-----Original Message-----
From: sarif@lists.oasis-open.org <sarif@lists.oasis-open.org> On
Behalf Of David Keaton
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2019 2:08 PM
To: sarif@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [sarif] Updated Schedule

Larry,

        Outside SoUs are welcome.  They must be submitted to sarif-comment@list.oasis-open.org.

					David

On 7/15/19 2:05 PM, Larry Golding (Myriad Consulting Inc) wrote:
That's a great point. Do the SOU's have to come from TC members? Maybe SATE can give us one.

-----Original Message-----
From: sarif@lists.oasis-open.org <sarif@lists.oasis-open.org> On
Behalf Of David Keaton
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2019 2:03 PM
To: sarif@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [sarif] Updated Schedule

Larry,

         Well, that's debatable.  They didn't really use the resulting log file; they only submitted it to SATE.  It would be easier to make the case that Microsoft and SATE conform, though I see what you're saying.

         It isn't a big deal.  We only need three Statements of Use, and we know of at least two organizations so far that will submit them so far.

         In the end, the TC will need to vote on whether each Statement of Use is sufficient.  It would be best to get as many SoUs as we can where the answer is clear cut.

					David

On 7/15/19 1:51 PM, Larry Golding (Myriad Consulting Inc) wrote:
But they still _used_ the resulting log file, so that counts as a use of the "log file" conformance clause, right?

-----Original Message-----
From: sarif@lists.oasis-open.org <sarif@lists.oasis-open.org> On
Behalf Of Yekaterina O'Neil
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2019 1:50 PM
To: David Keaton <dmk@dmk.com>; sarif@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [sarif] Updated Schedule

Got it, thank you :)
k

-----Original Message-----
From: sarif@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:sarif@lists.oasis-open.org]
On Behalf Of David Keaton
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2019 1:49 PM
To: sarif@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [sarif] Updated Schedule

          Oh, then Microsoft conforms. :-)

          You would only submit a Statement of Use if your own software conforms to one or more of the conformance clauses.

					David

On 7/15/19 1:47 PM, Yekaterina O'Neil wrote:
We use Microsoft converter though
k

-----Original Message-----
From: sarif@lists.oasis-open.org
[mailto:sarif@lists.oasis-open.org]
On Behalf Of David Keaton
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2019 1:45 PM
To: sarif@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [sarif] Updated Schedule

Katrina,

           Yes, if you produce conforming SARIF files, that means that you at least conform to the SARIF log file and SARIF producer conformance clauses.

					David

On 7/15/19 1:36 PM, Yekaterina O'Neil wrote:
David,

Is submission of results in SARIF format to SATE treated as a use?
k

-----Original Message-----
From: sarif@lists.oasis-open.org
[mailto:sarif@lists.oasis-open.org]
On Behalf Of David Keaton
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2019 12:50 PM
To: sarif@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [sarif] Updated Schedule

Katrina,

            Sorry, I just realized that I didn't answer your second question.

            The Statements of Use are only for organizations that currently use the standard.  We need to have three of those total.  An organization that does not yet use the standard will not submit a Statement of Use.

					David

On 7/15/19 12:48 PM, David Keaton wrote:
Katrina,

        Only three Statements of Use are needed. One of them
has to be from an OASIS organizational member. Microsoft will
submit one, and they are an organizational member, so we are covered there.

       ÂÂÂÂ The Statements of Use will be available for inspection
by the TC, so I can share the attached as an example. It turns
out that we will need to reference the Committee Specification
instead of the CSD, but Jim did a great job putting everything that is required into it.

       ÂÂÂÂ For complete detail on what needs to be in a Statement
of Use, the following definition explains it well.

https://ww
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On 7/15/19 11:29 AM, Yekaterina O'Neil wrote:
Thank you, David!

I do have a couple of questions about statement of use (I might
have missed earlier discussions of these):

      ÂÂÂÂ- does everyone on the TC need to submit statement of use?
      ÂÂÂÂ- what happens if we don't currently use the standard,
but are planning in the future?
      ÂÂÂÂ- what is the format of the document? Is there a template?

Thank you!
k

-----Original Message-----
From: sarif@lists.oasis-open.org
[mailto:sarif@lists.oasis-open.org]
On Behalf Of David Keaton
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2019 7:36 PM
To: sarif@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [sarif] Updated Schedule

      ÂÂÂÂÂÂ At last week's meeting, I took an action item to
update the dates in our delivery schedule. I have posted the
following document, which contains the original explanations of
each stage with an updated schedule at the end.

https://w
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       That document is very general. Below I list the
more specific events and dates I used to determine the updated schedule.
The actual actions might happen a little sooner or a little
later than my assumed schedule, depending on how things go.

      ÂÂÂÂÂÂ Please note that it is a good idea to start
preparing the Statements of Use now. You can update them with
the proper document reference and dates when the Special
Majority Vote for Committee Specification closes.

      ÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂ David

---

Committee Specification Special Majority Vote
      ÂÂÂÂ2019-07-26 ~ 2019-08-02

Statements of Use:Â Get ready now, submit when SMV closes
      ÂÂÂÂ2019-08-09

Ballot to request Candidate OASIS Standard SMV
      ÂÂÂÂ2019-08-09 ~ 2019-08-16

Candidate OASIS Standard SMV
      ÂÂÂÂ2019-08-30 ~ 2019-09-06

Candidate OASIS Standard 60-day public review
      ÂÂÂÂ2019-09-06 ~ 2019-11-05

Ballot to approve non-material changes due to review comments
and request SMV to proceed with Call for Consent
      ÂÂÂÂ2019-11-12 ~ 2019-11-19

SMV to begin Call for Consent for OASIS Standard
      ÂÂÂÂ2019-11-20 ~ 2019-11-27

Call for Consent for OASIS Standard
      ÂÂÂÂ2019-12-02 ~ 2019-12-16

OASIS Standard
      ÂÂÂÂ2019-12-16

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