Re: [sca-assembly] Potential Harmonization of OASIS SOA TC Activities

[Jeff Mischkinsky <jeff.mischkinsky@oracle.com>]

Hi Jeff,
    We discussed this item this morning during the OpenCSA Steering  
Committee meeting, and as Chair, I was asked to respond to your  
interest/request quickly. (There should be something in the minutes  
when they come out.)

    The consensus was that this is an issue worth discussing and  
exploring. The suggested first step was to engage in some information  
sharing so that both groups can gain a common understanding of the  
work of both groups and decide what, if any, further actions should  
be taken. There was agreement that the Assembly TC is the right place  
to start on the SCA side. There was some discussion on how to go  
about setting up some information sharing sessions once the TC starts  
operating. I'm happy that there will be some SOA-RM TC participants  
at the plenary so that they will be able to listen to the various  
presentations on the state of the SCA work and figure out how to  
proceed. Mike Edwards agreed to take the lead (for the moment) in  
making sure that the right discussions happen during the meeting do  
that we can move forward. I'm sure there will some others on the SCA  
side who will also want to talk. Danny, Francis (if he attends), and  
anyone else who is interested should make sure to talk with Mike and  
do some planning.

   Thanks for your  interest - and congratulations on your wedding  
plans.

     cheers,
      jeff m

On Aug 30, 2007, at 3:33 PM, Jeffrey A. Estefan wrote:

> Mary,
>
> I've been serving as a voting member of the OASIS SOA Reference  
> Model TC since close to its inception and am currently serving as a  
> voting member of this TC's SOA Reference Architecture Subcommittee  
> (SC).  Duane Nickull of Adobe Systems is our TC Chair and Francis  
> McCabe of Genietown the SC Chair. As you know, the OASIS SOA  
> Reference Model (SOA-RM) v1.0 was approved as an OASIS standard  
> last October.  We are currently working on development of an  
> associated Reference Architecture for SOA (SOA-RA), which is  
> currently under its second TC-level working draft review.  We  
> expect a full public review sometime in early '08.
>
> My interest in the OASIS Open CSA effort and its associated SCA-*  
> TCs is to see how this new body of work coming from the Open SOA  
> Collaboration effort and now under the auspices of OASIS fits in  
> with other OASIS-sponsored SOA work.  One of the diagrams we used  
> in the SOA-RM v1.0 standard attempts to depict the relation of the  
> RM to other work.  I have attached an annotated version of this  
> graphic to include where I think the Open CSA effort fits in,  
> specifically with respect to the various SCA-* specs.  In addition,  
> I've tried to capture where the various WS-* efforts might fit into  
> such a
> graphic depicted related SOA and Web services work managed under  
> the auspices of OASIS.
>
> I would very much like to hear your feedback on possible  
> harmonization efforts across these various OASIS-sponsored SOA and  
> activities and perhaps WS-* related activities where it makes  
> senses.  I've purposely joined as a member of the SCA-Assembly TC  
> to gain additional insights into possible harmonization efforts.   
> Certainly our work under the SOA-RM TC (which includes both the SOA- 
> RM standard and the emerging SOA-RA spec) is at a higher level of  
> abstraction than the programming model/framework offering of the  
> various SCA-* specs.  Nevertheless, I believe it would be fruitful  
> to initiate some harmonization efforts and I believe it would  
> better serve the greater OASIS users and stakeholder community who  
> are inundated with emerging (and sometimes competing)  
> specifications and standards.
>
> On a final note, I was really looking forward to attending the  
> OASIS Open CSA event up in Palo Alto next month but that occurs  
> right in the middle of my wedding/honeymoon.  There is at least one  
> member of our SOA-RM TC who
> is planning on attending and that is Danny Thornton.  Francis  
> McCabe is considering attendance pending his availability.
>
> Again, I look forward to your feedback on the attached graphic and  
> potential harmonization efforts across the various OASIS SOA and WS- 
> * TCs.
>
> Respectfully,
>
>  - Jeff
>
> Jeff A. Estefan, Jet Propulsion Laboratory
> JPL Representative to OASIS
> Voting Member OASIS SOA-RM TC
> Voting Member OASIS SOA-RA SC
> Member SCA-Assembly TC
>
> <OASIS_Other_SOA+WS_Work.png>

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