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Subject: Minutes from 2007-11-20 are attached


Title: SCA-Assy - 2007-11-20

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SCA-Assembly TC Teleconference

20 NOV 2007

Attendees

Present
Charlton Barreto, (Adobe Systems)
fred carter, (AmberPoint)
Dale Moberg, (Axway Software*)
David DiFranco, (BEA Systems, Inc.)
Michael Rowley, (BEA Systems, Inc.)
Jacques Durand, (Fujitsu Limited*)
Tom Rutt, (Fujitsu Limited*)
Robert Freund, (Hitachi, Ltd.)
Eisaku Nishiyama, (Hitachi, Ltd.)
Eric Wells, (Hitachi, Ltd.)
Michael Beisiegel, (IBM)
David Booz, (IBM)
Jean-Sebastien Delfino, (IBM)
Mike Edwards, (IBM)
Simon Holdsworth, (IBM)
Dieter Koenig, (IBM)
Simon Nash, (IBM)
Peter Niblett, (IBM)
Matthew Peters, (IBM)
Peter Furniss, (Iris Financial Solutions Ltd.)
Martin Chapman, (Oracle Corporation)
Khanderao Kand, (Oracle Corporation)
Anish Karmarkar, (Oracle Corporation)
Rich Levinson, (Oracle Corporation)
Ashok Malhotra, (Oracle Corporation)
Jeff Mischkinsky, (Oracle Corporation)
Ron Barack, (SAP AG*)
Henning Blohm, (SAP AG*)
Sanjay Patil, (SAP AG*)
Peter Peshev, (SAP AG*)
Mark Hapner, (Sun Microsystems)
Peter Walker, (Sun Microsystems)
Chair
Edwards and Chapman
Scribe
Bob Freund
Agenda:

1. Opening
Introductions
Roll call
Scribe confirmation
Agenda bashing
2. Approval of minutes of SCA-Assembly TC meeting of 6th November
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200710/msg00131.html
3. Action Items from Previous Meeting
2007-11-06-1: Dave Booz to weigh his concern and generate a refined proposal that deals with the other aspects of issue 6
2007-11-06-2: Michael Beisiegel to conviene editors to produce a working draft prior to the next meeting
4. Consider the Idea of an Assembly F2F
Either in late January or at the OASIS Symposium in April.
5. New Issues
ASSEMBLY-13 Difficulty using source= attribute to pull values into complex types
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-13
ASSEMBLY-14 Conflicting Specification of Values for Many-Valued StringProperties
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-14
ASSEMBLY-15 Unclear how Composites are discovered when Referenced
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-15
ASSEMBLY-16 Component URI is not well described
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-16
ASSEMBLY-17 Need to define Namespace handling for included Composites
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-17
ASSEMBLY-18 XSD definitions of Component Service and Component Referencehave unintended features
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-18
ASSEMBLY-19 Schema definition for Component, Component Reference @autowireattribute is incorrect
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-19
ASSEMBLY-20 Conflict Between SCA XSD and Specification Body about thehandling of Multi-Valued Properties
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-20
ASSEMBLY-21 Binding name attribute not a QName
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-21
ASSEMBLY-22 WSDL extension should not be required for conversations
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-22
ASSEMBLY-23 SCA declarations should use namespace ##other rather than ##any
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-23
ASSEMBLY-24 textual sca:include not sufficient
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-24
ASSEMBLY-25 Can Implementation change property values after instantiaion
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-25
ASSEMBLY-26 SCA Composite Visibility
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-26
6. Open Issues
ASSEMBLY-6: usage of not promoted references
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-6
Following discussion on the email list
7. Conformance Statements in the Assembly Specification
Following discussion on the email list
8. AOB

Contents

Topics
[1]  opening
[2]  Action Item review
[3]  Potential Assy TC f2f
[4]  New issues
[5]  New Issue Assembly-25
[6]  New Issue Assembly-26
Table of Resolutions
Table of Action Items

Action Items

Old:
2007-11-06-01: id=2007-11-06-01 status=done
2007-11-06-02: id=2007-11-06-02 status=done Updated version sent to editors' mailing list, some work needed by OASIS staff to fix doc respository
New:

Resolutions


Minutes

Scribe: Bob Freund

opening

 
meeting is quorate with more than 22 of 35
 
agenda agreed w/o
Resolution: minutes of 2007-11-06 approved w/o

Action Item review

Action: id=2007-11-06-01 status=done
Action: id=2007-11-06-02 status=done Updated version sent to editors' mailing list, some work needed by OASIS staff to fix doc respository

Potential Assy TC f2f

Edwards:
Reviews potential of a f2f in conjunction with the OASIS symposium attendent to the request of OASIS staff
Chapman:
 
... past experience has not been good
<anish>
oasis has fixed the doc repository problem. Uploading the docs.
Malhotra:
Proposes a longer, four day, face to face which would be divided between Assy and Policy
 
... proposed date is the week of 2008-01-21, but so far, no host has volunteered
 
... the Policy TC has agreed to not meet at the OASIS symposium
Edwards:
I would favor a face to face in January rather than April due to weighty issues that would be beneficially cleared earlier rather than later.
Chapman:
recommends that we just say no to OASIS
Resolution: M:Bob S:Charlton that we tell OASIS no to meeting during the symposium w/o
Edwards:
the suggestion is the week of January 21, are folks generally in favor of that week?
 
... Seems that folks are not against the week of January 21
Patil:
Asks about the possibility of simultaneous TC meetings with the other TCs
<anish>
Both the doc and pdf versions are uploaded to the doc repo
<anish>
<anish>
<anish>
<charlton>
agreed, simul meetings with other TCs will only make things difficult
Karmarkar:
The updated documents have been uploaded to the OASIS web site in the editors' area

New issues

Peters:
reviews new issue Assy-13
Peters:
Not clear on how to solve this problem, and I am curious as to what folks think about it. I think that it is a reasonable problem worth solving.
<charlton>
AFAIK
Resolution: Meters: S:Rowley new issue Assembly-13 accepted w/o
<anish>
also errata == minor issue/changes
<TomRutt>
ASSEMBLY-25 Can Implementation change property values after instantiaion
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-25
Resolution: M:Henning S:jeffM new issues Assy-14 - Assy-24 accepted w/o
<anish>
The pdf and doc version have been uploaded to the 'Working Draft' folder of the main TC

New Issue Assembly-25

Rutt:
Introduces the issue
<anish>
<anish>
Resolution: M:Rutt S:Karmarkar new issue Assembly-25 accepted w/o

New Issue Assembly-26

Hapner:
Introduces the new issue
 
... in Java for example, visibility is enforced by the language. It is not clear when SCA is used, what component enforces the semantics and generates the error
Resolution: M:Hapner S:Nash New issue Assembly-26 accepted w/o
Edwards:
Since time has run out we adjourn
<Mike Edwards>
Thanks folks
<Martin C>

[End of Minutes]
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