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Subject: Draft Minutes of SCA-Assembly meeting of 2008-02-19 are attached


Title: SCA-Assy - 2008-02-19

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SCA Assembly TC
Teleconference

19 FEB 2008

Attendees

Present
Charlton Barreto, (Adobe Systems)
Duane Nickull, (Adobe Systems)
fred carter, (AmberPoint)
Mark Combellack, (Avaya, Inc.)
Dale Moberg, (Axway Software*)
David DiFranco, (BEA Systems, Inc.)
Michael Rowley, (BEA Systems, Inc.)
Jacques Durand, (Fujitsu Limited*)
Tom Rutt, (Fujitsu Limited*)
Robert Freund, (Hitachi, Ltd.)
Eisaku Nishiyama, (Hitachi, Ltd.)
Eric Wells, (Hitachi, Ltd.)
Bryan Aupperle, (IBM)
Michael Beisiegel, (IBM)
David Booz, (IBM)
Dieter Koenig, (IBM)
Simon Nash, (IBM)
Peter Niblett, (IBM)
Matthew Peters, (IBM)
Peter Furniss, (Iris Financial Solutions Ltd.)
Jeff Estefan, (Jet Propulsion Laboratory:*)
Martin Chapman, (Oracle Corporation)
Khanderao Kand, (Oracle Corporation)
Anish Karmarkar, (Oracle Corporation)
Rich Levinson, (Oracle Corporation)
Ashok Malhotra, (Oracle Corporation)
Vladislav Bezrukov, (SAP AG*)
Mark Hapner, (Sun Microsystems)
Peter Walker, (Sun Microsystems)
Sabin Ielceanu, (TIBCO Software Inc.)
Scott Vorthmann, (TIBCO Software Inc.)
Chair
Martin Chapman
Scribe
Bob Freund
Agenda:
1. Opening
Introductions
Roll call
Scribe confirmation
Agenda bashing
2. Approval of minutes of SCA-Assembly TC meeting of 12th February
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/27232/SCA%20Assembly%20minutes%202008-02-12.html
3. Action Items:
2008-01-22-1: Testing sub-committee organise themselves, select a chair, and report to the TC
2008-01-22-4: Rowley to propose a resolution to Assembly-8 according to his inclinations
2008-01-22-6: Karmarkar to coordinate with Alex Yu and produce a new proposal
2008-01-22-8: Rowley to propose a resolution to Assembly-16
2008-01-22-12: Koenig to produce a proposal to address Assembly-33 based in part on his presentation and the discussion in the room
2008-02-05-1: Edwards to post updated schemas
4. Status of work towards Committee Draft of the Specification
5. New Issues
ASSEMBLY-48 Defaulting composite reference targets to internal components
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-48
ASSEMBLY-49 Add an optional description attribute to promoted properties, references and services
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-49
6. Existing Issues
ASSEMBLY-17 Need to define the namespace handling for included composites
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-17
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200802/msg00027.html
ASSEMBLY-30 Incorrect description of child elements in Assembly
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-30
The proposal is contained in the JIRA description.
ASSEMBLY-5 Component type allows to specify wire targets on references
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-5
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200802/msg00054.html
7. AOB

Contents

Topics
[1]  Opening
[2]  Action items
[3]  New Issues
[4]  New Issue Assembly-38
[5]  New issue ASSEMBLY-49 Add an optional description attribute to promoted properties, references and services
[6]  Existing Issues
[7]  ASSEMBLY-17 Need to define the namespace handling for included composites
[8]  Assembly-24
[9]  ASSEMBLY-30 Incorrect description of child elements in Assembly
[10]  ASSEMBLY-5 Component type allows to specify wire targets on references http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-5
[11]  Status of work toward Cttee Draft
[12]  AOB
Table of Resolutions
Table of Action Items

Action Items

Old:
2008-01-22-1: id=2008-01-22-1 status=pending
2008-01-22-04: id=2008-01-22-04 status=done done=2008-02-06
2008-01-22-6: id=2008-01-22-6 status=pending
2008-01-22-8: id=2008-01-22-8 status=done done=2008-02-19
2008-01-22-12: id=2008-01-22-12 status=pending
2008-02-05-1: id=2008-02-05-1 status=pending
New:

Resolutions


Minutes

Teleconference

Scribe: Bob Freund

Opening

 
Roll - quorate 27 of 37
Resolution: minutes of 2008-02-12 approved w/o

Action items

Action: id=2008-01-22-1 status=pending
Action: id=2008-01-22-04 status=done done=2008-02-06
Action: id=2008-01-22-6 status=pending
Action: id=2008-01-22-8 status=done done=2008-02-19
Action: id=2008-01-22-12 status=pending
Action: id=2008-02-05-1 status=pending

New Issues

New Issue Assembly-38

 
Last call's minutes indicated that it has already been opened
<anish>
<anish>
i don't see that on the new issues list

New issue ASSEMBLY-49 Add an optional description attribute to promoted properties, references and services

 
Combellack reviews his new issue at http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-49
<anish>
i would rather see an element or attribute here
<anish>
something like a <description> which is extensible
Resolution: m:Combellack s:Nash new issue Assembly-49 opened w/o
<anish>
what i meant to say was: i would rather see an element rather than an attribute

Existing Issues

ASSEMBLY-17 Need to define the namespace handling for included composites

<anish>
Karmarkar:
There was another issue that I put on the mailing list that did not make it to the agenda
<charlton>
i don't think simon, khanderao or myself should be penalised due to a problem with the capacity limits of the telcon and the insistence that attendees can only be included for roll by phone
<Martin C>
the chairs will not penalise for technical issues accessing the bridge
<anish>
The proposal for issue 17 without the resolution issue is at:http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200802/msg00013.html
Motion: m:Rowley s: resolve Assembly-17 using the proposal contained in http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200802/msg00013.html w/o
Motion: m:Rowley s: resolve Assembly-17 using the proposal contained in http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200802/msg00013.html note that the second part of this issue is contained inAssembly-8
<anish>
i also believe that issue 17 and issue 24 are the same
<charlton>
yes, there is considerable overlap between these three
Resolution: m:Rowley s: resolve Assembly-17 using the proposal contained in http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200802/msg00013.html note that the second part of this issue is contained in Assembly-8 w/o
<anish>

Assembly-24

<charlton>
simon, khanderao, are either of you on the bridge
Motion: m:Karmarkar s:Rowley Close Assembly-24 as a duplicate of Assembly-17 and Assembly-8
Resolution: m:Karmarkar s:Rowley Close Assembly-24 as a duplicate of Assembly-17 and Assembly-8 w/o
<Martin C>

ASSEMBLY-30 Incorrect description of child elements in Assembly

 
Proposal contained in jira
Resolution: m:Freund s: postpone discussion of Assy-30 until Edwards returns w/o

ASSEMBLY-5 Component type allows to specify wire targets on references http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-5

<Martin C>
Resolution: m:Rowley s:Nash Postpone until Edwards' return w/o

Status of work toward Cttee Draft

Karmarkar:
Editors finished incorporation of several issues as well as the reorganization of the document
 
A new version was uploaded within the last 24 hours
Chapman:
Please review the document and entertain discussing its potential as a Cttee draft in an upcoming meeting

AOB

<Michael Rowley>
My proposed rule for issue 8, based on our discussion of issue 17: "When an exported definition is imported by another contribution, any QNames that exist in the definition of the exported definition will be resolved in the context of the installed contribution in which the export occurs (not in the context of the importing contribution)."
<anish>
:-) the exact opposite of what i was going to propose
<anish>
there is a significant risk here with the rule that you propose
<Dave Booz>
+1 TO Anish
<Scott>
issue 24 has Henning's proposed solution, which I like better than Michael's
<anish>
there is a danger similar to saying that java.lang.Object should be resolved using the 'foreign'contribution
 
adourned

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