Draft minutes of 2008-03-25 are attached

[Bob Freund <bob.freund@hitachisoftware.com>]

Title: SCA-Assy - 2008-03-25

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SCA-Assembly TC
Teleconference

25 MAR 2008

Attendees

Present

Charlton Barreto, (Adobe Systems)

Duane Nickull, (Adobe Systems)

fred carter, (AmberPoint)

Mark Combellack, (Avaya, Inc.)

Dale Moberg, (Axway Software*)

David DiFranco, (BEA Systems, Inc.)

Michael Rowley, (BEA Systems, Inc.)

Jacques Durand, (Fujitsu Limited*)

Tom Rutt, (Fujitsu Limited*)

Robert Freund, (Hitachi, Ltd.)

Eisaku Nishiyama, (Hitachi, Ltd.)

Eric Wells, (Hitachi, Ltd.)

Bryan Aupperle, (IBM)

Michael Beisiegel, (IBM)

David Booz, (IBM)

Graham Charters, (IBM)

Mike Edwards, (IBM)

Simon Holdsworth, (IBM)

Simon Nash, (IBM)

Peter Furniss, (Iris Financial Solutions Ltd.)

Jeff Estefan, (Jet Propulsion Laboratory:*)

Martin Chapman, (Oracle Corporation)

Khanderao Kand, (Oracle Corporation)

Anish Karmarkar, (Oracle Corporation)

Rich Levinson, (Oracle Corporation)

Ashok Malhotra, (Oracle Corporation)

Jeff Mischkinsky, (Oracle Corporation)

Peter Walker, (Sun Microsystems)

Sabin Ielceanu, (TIBCO Software Inc.)

Scott Vorthmann, (TIBCO Software Inc.)

Chairs

Martin Chapman

Mike Edwards

Scribe

Bob Freund

Agenda:

1. Opening
Introductions
Roll call
Scribe confirmation
Agenda bashing
2. Approval of minutes of SCA-Assembly TC meeting of 18th March
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/27638/SCA%20Assembly%20minutes%202008-03-18.html
3. Action Items:
2008-01-22-6: Karmarkar to coordinate with Alex Yu and produce a new
proposal for Issue 14
2008-02-05-1: Edwards to post updated schemas
DONE:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200803/msg00065.html
2008-03-18-1: Editors to mark the authoritative version as such on the
first page of the document
DONE:
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/27633/sca-assembly-1.1-spec-WD-03.pdf
2008-03-18-2: Dave Booz to write up a modified version of the proposal for
Issue 16 based on his thoughts expressed during the call
4. Existing Issues A
ASSEMBLY-16 Component URI is not well described
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-16
Proposal contained in this email:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200802/msg00111.html
ASSEMBLY-25 Can Implementation change property values after instantiaion
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-25
The proposal is contained in this email:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200802/msg00055.html
ASSEMBLY-5 Component type allows to specify wire targets on references
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-5
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200802/msg00054.html
5. New Issues
ASSEMBLY-53 No schema or extension model definitions for contributions
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-53
ASSEMBLY-54 interface.partnerLinkType
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-54
ASSEMBLY-55 Definition of Bindings
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-55
ASSEMBLY-56 Need to clarify definition of Bidirectional Interfaces
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-56
ASSEMBLY-57 Unresolved bindings on references
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-57
ASSEMBLY-58 Graphical representation of wires in included composites
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-58
6. Existing Issues B
ASSEMBLY-8 SCDL artifact resolution underspecified
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-8
The proposal is discussed in these emails:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200802/msg00092.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200802/msg00102.html
ASSEMBLY-33 Long-Running Request-Response Operations
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-33
The proposal is contained in this email:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200802/msg00109.html
ASSEMBLY-31 Wiring from a reference with no binding to a service with
abinding
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-31
The proposal is contained in the issue.
7. AOB

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Contents

Topics

[1]  Opening

[2]  Action Item Review

[3]  Existing Issues

[4]  Assembly-16 - skipped

[5]  ASSEMBLY-25 Can Implementation change property values after instantiaion http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-25

[6]  ASSEMBLY-5 Component type allows to specify wire targets on references http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-5

[7]  New Issue ASSEMBLY-53 No schema or extension model definitions for contributions http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-53

[8]  ASSEMBLY-54 interface.partnerLinkType http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-54

[9]  New Issue ASSEMBLY-55 Definition of Bindings http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-55

[10]  ASSEMBLY-56 Need to clarify definition of Bidirectional Interfaces http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-56

[11]  ASSEMBLY-57 Unresolved bindings on references http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-57

[12]  ASSEMBLY-58 Graphical representation of wires in included composites http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-58

[13]  New Issue Assembly-59 Conversations with more than two participants http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-59

[14]  ASSEMBLY-8 SCDL artifact resolution underspecified http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-8

Table of Resolutions

Table of Action Items

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Action Items

Old:

2008-02-05-1: id=2008-02-05-1 Edwards to post updated schemas status=done

2008-01-22-6: id=2008-01-22-6 Karmarkar to coordinate with Alex Yu and produce a new proposal for Issue 14 status=pending

2008-03-18-1: id=2008-03-18-1 Editors to mark the authoritative version as such on the first page of the document status=done

2008-03-18-2: id=2008-03-18-2 Dave Booz to write up a modified version of the proposal for Issue 16 based on his thoughts expressed during the call status=pending

New:

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Resolutions

• 2008-03-25-1: Minutes of 2008-03-18 meeting approved w/o
• 2008-03-25-2: m:Edwards s:Baretto Resolve Assembly-25 with the text at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200802/msg00055.html as modified by text above w/o
• 2008-03-25-3: Postpone discussion of Assembly-5 until some future date when those who might object could be present
• 2008-03-25-4: m:Aupperle s:Nichols issue Assembly-53 opened with the restriction that it does not involve the schemas w/o
• 2008-03-25-5: m:Chapman s:Furniss New Issue Assembly-54 opened w/o
• 2008-03-25-6: m:Malhotra s:Booz Assembly-55 opened w/o
• 2008-03-25-7: m:Rutt s:Baretto New issue Assembly-56 opened w/o
• 2008-03-25-8: m:Rowley s:Nash New issue Assembly-57 opened w/o
• 2008-03-25-9: m:Rowley s:Estefan New issue Assembly-58 opened w/o
• 2008-03-25-10: m:Rowley s:Booz New issue Assembly-59 opened 9 to 8

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Minutes

Teleconference

Scribe: Bob Freund

Opening

 

Roll - not quorate 18 of 37

 

Agenda - agreed

 

tentative resolution: Minutes of last meeting approved w/o

Action Item Review

Action: id=2008-02-05-1 Edwards to post updated schemas status=done

Action: id=2008-01-22-6 Karmarkar to coordinate with Alex Yu and produce a new proposal for Issue 14 status=pending

Action: id=2008-03-18-1 Editors to mark the authoritative version as such on the first page of the document status=done

 

agenda modification - Issue 16 to be skipped due to pending ai

Action: id=2008-03-18-2 Dave Booz to write up a modified version of the proposal for Issue 16 based on his thoughts expressed during the call status=pending

Existing Issues

Assembly-16 - skipped

ASSEMBLY-25 Can Implementation change property values after instantiaion http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-25

 

Chapman notes that the meeting is now quorate due to the number of late joiners.

 

Tentative resolutions reviewed and made non-tentative after the review

Resolution: Minutes of 2008-03-18 meeting approved w/o

 

Chapman takes the helm while Edwards reviews his proposal at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200802/msg00055.html

 

It is noted that dynamic modification of a composite would be another issue entirely

<Mike Edwards>

Change final sentence to: "However, if the implementation queries the SCA runtime for the value of the
property, the value as defined in the SCA composite must be returned."

<charlton>

I second Mike's proposal

Resolution: m:Edwards s:Baretto Resolve Assembly-25 with the text at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200802/msg00055.html as modified by text above w/o

ASSEMBLY-5 Component type allows to specify wire targets on references http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-5

 

Edwards proposes to close with no action and describes his rationale

<Martin C>

proposal in http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200802/msg00054.html

Resolution: Postpone discussion of Assembly-5 until some future date when those who might object could be present

New Issue ASSEMBLY-53 No schema or extension model definitions for contributions http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-53

 

Aupperle introduces his new issue

Resolution: m:Aupperle s:Nichols issue Assembly-53 opened with the restriction that it does not involve the schemas w/o

 

this issue is not about the xsds, but it is a matter of providing better examples of what an extension point might look like

ASSEMBLY-54 interface.partnerLinkType http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-54

 

Chapman reviews his new issue

Resolution: m:Chapman s:Furniss New Issue Assembly-54 opened w/o

New Issue ASSEMBLY-55 Definition of Bindings http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-55

 

Malhotra introduces his issue

 

It is noted that this seems to be now in section 9.6 in WD-02 or WD-03

 

N.B. Malhotra and Booz will locate the offending text in the current draft offline

Resolution: m:Malhotra s:Booz Assembly-55 opened w/o

ASSEMBLY-56 Need to clarify definition of Bidirectional Interfaces http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-56

 

Rutt introduces his new issue

<CanadaDuane>

Wouldn't callbacks depend on what the service actually does? Implementation issue?

Resolution: m:Rutt s:Baretto New issue Assembly-56 opened w/o

ASSEMBLY-57 Unresolved bindings on references http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-57

 

Rowley introduces his issue

Resolution: m:Rowley s:Nash New issue Assembly-57 opened w/o

ASSEMBLY-58 Graphical representation of wires in included composites http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-58

 

Rowley introduces his issue

Resolution: m:Rowley s:Estefan New issue Assembly-58 opened w/o

New Issue Assembly-59 Conversations with more than two participants http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-59

 

Rowley introduces his Titanic new issue

 

Chapman objects believing it to be too large an issue for this TC

<charlton>

Agree with Martin

 

Vote: 9 yeses 8 noes motion carries

Resolution: m:Rowley s:Booz New issue Assembly-59 opened 9 to 8

ASSEMBLY-8 SCDL artifact resolution underspecified http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-8

 

Straggler Roll

 

Adjourned

<Mike Edwards>

thanks folks

[End of Minutes]
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