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Subject: Corrected Draft Minutes from 2008-04-15 are attached


Title: SCA-Assy - 2008-04-15

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- DRAFT -

OASIS SCA-Assembly
Teleconfrence

15 APR 2008

Attendees

Present
Duane Nickull, (Adobe Systems)
fred carter, (AmberPoint)
Mark Combellack, (Avaya, Inc.)
Dale Moberg, (Axway Software*)
Michael Rowley, (BEA Systems, Inc.)
Jacques Durand, (Fujitsu Limited*)
Tom Rutt, (Fujitsu Limited*)
Robert Freund, (Hitachi, Ltd.)
Eisaku Nishiyama, (Hitachi, Ltd.)
Eric Wells, (Hitachi, Ltd.)
Bryan Aupperle, (IBM)
Michael Beisiegel, (IBM)
David Booz, (IBM)
Mike Edwards, (IBM)
Simon Holdsworth, (IBM)
Dieter Koenig, (IBM)
Simon Moser, (IBM)
Jeff Estefan, (Jet Propulsion Laboratory:*)
Martin Chapman, (Oracle Corporation)
Anish Karmarkar, (Oracle Corporation)
Rich Levinson, (Oracle Corporation)
Ashok Malhotra, (Oracle Corporation)
Jeff Mischkinsky, (Oracle Corporation)
Sanjay Patil, (SAP AG*)
Vladislav Bezrukov, (SAP AG*)
Peter Walker, (Sun Microsystems)
Sabin Ielceanu, (TIBCO Software Inc.)
Scott Vorthmann, (TIBCO Software Inc.)
Chairs
Mike Edwards
Martin Chapman
Scribe
Bob Freund
Agenda:
1. Opening
Introductions
Roll call
Scribe confirmation
Agenda bashing
2. Approval of minutes of SCA-Assembly TC meeting of 8th April
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/27947/SCA%20Assembly%20minutes%202008-04-08.html
3. Action Items:
2008-04-01-1: Dave Booz to write up the OSGI approach to artifact resolution (Issue 8)
2008-04-01-2: Graham Charters and Michael Rowley to write up their "Compromise" approach to Issue 8
4. F2F Meeting
5. New Issues
ASSEMBLY-60 Description Elements in SCDL
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-60
6. Existing Issues
ASSEMBLY-31 Wiring from a reference with no binding to a service with a binding
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-31
- consideration of the closure motion made at the last meeting.
ASSEMBLY-14: Conflicting Specification of Values for Many-Valued StringProperties
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-14
Proposals contained in these emails:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200804/msg00000.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200804/msg00033.html
ASSEMBLY-5 Component type allows to specify wire targets on references
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-5
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200802/msg00054.html
ASSEMBLY-16 Component URI is not well described
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-16
Proposal contained in these emails:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200802/msg00111.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200804/msg00003.html
ASSEMBLY-8 SCDL artifact resolution underspecified
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-8
The proposal is discussed in these emails:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200802/msg00092.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200802/msg00102.html
ASSEMBLY-33 Long-Running Request-Response Operations
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-33
The proposal is contained in this email:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200802/msg00109.html
7. AOB

Contents

Topics
[1]  Opening
[2]  Action items
[3]  Face to Face meeting
[4]  New Issues
[5]  Existing Issues
[6]  ASSEMBLY-31 Wiring from a reference with no binding to a service with a binding http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-31
[7]  ASSEMBLY-14: Conflicting Specification of Values for Many-Valued StringProperties http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-14
[8]  ASSEMBLY-5 Component type allows to specify wire targets on references http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-5
Table of Resolutions
Table of Action Items

Action Items

Old:
2008-04-01-1: id=2008-04-01-1 status=pending Dave Booz to write up the OSGI approach to artifact resolution (Issue 8)
2008-04-01-2: id=2008-04-01-2 status=done Graham Charters and Michael Rowley to write up their "Compromise" approach to Issue 8
New:
2008-04-15-1: Karmarkar to produce an updated proposal for the resolution of Assembly-14

Resolutions


Minutes

Scribe: Bob Freund

Opening

 
Roll - quorate with 22 of 31 voting members
 
Agenda - Agreed
Resolution: Minutes of 2008-04-08 approved w/o

Action items

Action: id=2008-04-01-1 status=pending Dave Booz to write up the OSGI approach to artifact resolution (Issue 8)
Action: id=2008-04-01-2 status=done Graham Charters and Michael Rowley to write up their "Compromise" approach to Issue 8

Face to Face meeting

 
Dates confirmed for 2008-06-3/4 at the SAP site in Walldorf Germany

New Issues

 
Topic New Issue ASSEMBLY-60 Description Elements in SCDL http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-60
<Mark Combellack>
<anish>
here is how WSDL solves this:
<anish>
<xs:complexType mixed="true" name="tDocumentation">
<xs:sequence>
<xs:any minOccurs="0" maxOccurs="unbounded" processContents="lax"/>
</xs:sequence>
</xs:complexType>
<xs:complexType name="tDocumented">
<xs:annotation>
<xs:documentation>
This type is extended by component types to allow them to be documented

</xs:documentation>
</xs:annotation>
<xs:sequence>
<xs:element name="documentation" type="wsdl:tDocumentation" minOccurs="0"/>
</xs:sequence>
</xs:complexType>
<anish>
Documented is extended by all wsdl elements
Motion: m:Rowley s:Patil open new issue 60
Amendment: m: Rowley s:Combellack ...and close issue 49 as it is a subset - w/o
Resolution: Open New Issue Assembly-60 and Close Assembly-49 as a subset w/o

Existing Issues

ASSEMBLY-31 Wiring from a reference with no binding to a service with a binding http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-31

Motion: m:Booz s:Rowley: Close Issue Assembly-31 with no action since it is superseded by the resolution to Assembly-57
Resolution: m:Booz s:Rowley: Close Issue Assembly-31 with no action since it is superseded by the resolution to Assembly-57 w/o

ASSEMBLY-14: Conflicting Specification of Values for Many-Valued StringProperties http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-14

 
Karmarkar summarizes the discussion to-date
<Mike Edwards>
Like so:
<Mike Edwards>
<property name="foo">
<value>
<SomeGED ...> ... </SomeGED>
</value>
</property>
<Mike Edwards>
you'd prefer:
<Mike Edwards>
<property name="foo">
<SomeGED ...> ... </SomeGED>
</property>
<Sanjay>
Is Rowley not your colleague?
<CanadaDuane>
Mike - I concur
<Mike Edwards>
<anish>
<property name="foo">
<SomeGED ...> ... </SomeGED>
<SomeGED ...> ... </SomeGED>
</property>
<anish>
the above is for GEDs
<Mike Edwards>
So this means that <value>Some string</value> can always be taken to be an xsi:string
<anish>
<Mike Edwards>
This example helps explain the usefulness of xsi:type
<Mike Edwards>
<property name="complexFoo">
<value xsi:type="foo:MyComplexType" attr="bar">
<foo:a>AValue</foo:a>
<foo:b>InterestingURI</foo:b>
</value>
</property>
<anish>
so seems to me that what we have is:
<anish>
Mike's proposal - defaulting of xsi:type + changes to GED (to remove the value element) + making xsi:type optional + no xsi:type on simpleTypes
Action: Karmarkar to produce an updated proposal for the resolution of Assembly-14

ASSEMBLY-5 Component type allows to specify wire targets on references http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-5

<Sanjay>
that-thing-there is different from specifying reference binding/uri, etc.
Resolution: m:Rowley s:Beisegal Close Assembly-5 with no action passes Ayes-13 Nays-7 Present-2
 
Straggler Roll
 
Adjourned

[End of Minutes]
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